Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Locomotive Engineer

Locomotive Engineer

This is just a dictionary definition. I don't think it likely that an encyclopedic article could come out of it. Perhaps a small section at most in the locomotive or Engineer articles. The title is also in the wrong case. Thryduulf 02:28, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Are locomotive drivers called "engineers" outside the US and Canada? Gazpacho
- In the UK, steam engine drivers are sometimes called Engineers. Its not a term I've heard used for other forms of motive power. Thryduulf 09:31, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  - "Time flies by when you're the driver of a train, and you're riding on the footplate, there and back again ..." Oh. Er. Sorry about that. What were we discussing again? Ah, yes. Delete and let someone come up with an article discussing the profession and practice of train driving. Uncle G 12:42, 2005 Jan 14 (UTC)
Delete. Dic def. JoaoRicardo 05:11, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Delete or Transwiki to Wiktionary. However, since this text is almost non-content, my vote's for Delete. --Death phoenix 20:21, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Delete as inept dicdef. Wyss 21:48, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Redirect to driving. Gazpacho 22:16, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Keep, it may be a substub now but the topic has potential. Should probably be moved to locomotive engineer, though. -- ckape (talk) 06:31, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Delete if not improved; this is no better than a blank page. However, the topic can definitely justify its own separate article, as with any professional work. There's a lot that can be said, contrary to some peoples' opinions above. Their training, their work, common duties, history of the profession, the labor movement and labor unions, glamorisation of the job in relation to other railroad jobs, etc etc. Plenty of scope to link out to other articles and explain them from the locomotive driver's viewpoint. It doesn't really matter to whether it's at locomotive engineer or train driver; the latter is possibly comprehensible to more people than engineer, which does not mean a driver outside of North America. It is notable, though, that a British trade union for the profession is ASLEF, the Associated Society of Locomotive Engineers and Firemen, showing that the term 'locomotive engineer' had some currency in Britain at some point. —Morven 07:40, Jan 15, 2005 (UTC)
Delete. Maybe someone will come and write a decent article on this one day, but as it stands this is not worthy to be kept. — Trilobite (Talk) 14:44, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Delete dicdef. Gazpacho 22:37, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Everyone I know uses this phrase, and I live in the middle of the U.S. (Just to clarify usage). Delete as a dicdef. hfool/Roast me 03:07, 17 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Redirect to Rail terminology, where it's defined. --SPUI 06:52, 18 Jan 2005 (UTC)