Talk:Apocopation
Merge with "abbreviation"
[edit]It has been suggested that articles relating to Abbreviations be merged into the one article. I have already merged Syllabic Abbreviation into Abbreviations, and Acronym and Initialism is a possibility. What are your opinions? Brisvegas 07:45, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
- Merge it! --Mozillaman 18:57, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
- I am against the merge. The two topics, while similar, are not the same thing. Provided I am understanding the articles correctly, Apocopations are words that have simply be shortened by truncation (Alexander to Alex) which are different from acronyms like radar. They are separate concepts, and the content on the pages isn't at all redundant. Speaking more generally, unless two topics are virtually identical and there is lots of redundant information, I am against merging them, as it gives up specificity. Part of the strength of Wikipedia is that there's no page limit, and there are lots of very specific, focused articles. To merge every related concept together is to give up some of this. My proposal would be, let's have separate articles on "apocopation" and "acronym and initialism", but just link them together so it's easy to navigate from one to the other. There's no need to mush them all up. - Kadin2048 20:55, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
- No merge, unless... Apocopation, aphaeresis, and syncope are quite similar concepts, akin to the distinction between assonance, consonance, alliteration, etc. We can't just apocopation into a section without the merging the other articles too. Personally, I think they should stay separate, just as alliteration et al are separate. --mwazzap 00:46, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
- Don't merge. They are closely related but separate concepts. An apocopation is a kind of abbreviation and this should be prominently stated in both articles, and in the first paragraph of Apocopation. -Pgan002 05:48, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
- Indeed, no merge. They are much more useful for people searching for the individual terms if they remain separate articles (and that would probably the source of most of the merged article's traffic, rather than broader inquiries into abbreviation.--ragesoss 04:49, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
Merge with "apocope"
[edit]I suggest merging with apocope. Apocopation is the creation of an apocope, or just an apocope. -Pgan002 05:50, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
Strange words
[edit]I'm no expert but some of the terms listed as short versions I'v never heard. Like "addy"? Maybe it's a UK thing. Some are reaaaaaallly dumb. Heads up, y'all. Kzzl
- I've seen "addy" used in the US. It seems to be used most often in the context of email addresses. — Gwalla | Talk 17:20, 4 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- I've seen it used by Americans rather than Brits too. It is, of course, for email addresses, as I noted in parentheses. Wiwaxia
Category
[edit]I notice this article is categorized under "Phonology". Perhaps a better designation might be "Linguistics", since phonology is a subdiscipline of linguistics that focuses on the pronunciation and sounds of words.
From the OED:"Orig., the science of vocal sounds (= PHONETICS), esp. of the sounds of a particular language; the study of pronunciation; transf. the system of sounds in a language. Now, that branch of linguistics which deals with sound systems, or with sound systems and phonetics; the study of the sound system of a particular language. The domain of phonology is variously limited by different linguists and linguistic schools of thought. In the writings of the Prague school it is used to mean phonemics."[1] Also:[2]
It is evident from the content of the article that apocopation has little (or nothing) to do with the actual sound a word makes. If nobody objects within a week, I'll make the change.--Rockero 19:56, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
- Your idea is sound. --Pattersonc 17:38, 12 December 2005 (UTC)