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Pokémon: Mewtwo Returns

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I decided to do a source search for this film out of curiosity, as I'm interested in trying to improve another Mewtwo-centric film, Mewtwo Strikes Back, in the future. There is very little in the way of coverage. Outside of watch guides, the only sources are a single announcement from Comicbook.com about the film's manga adaptation (Which is mostly just a WP:ROUTINE news announcement), and a brief one paragraph summary in a book source. (It's self-published by a movie critic named Doug Pratt. Unsure of his reliability since Google gives me conflicting results for which Doug Pratt this is). There is also an IGN listicle that is primarily a plot synopsis, but technically has extremely sparse amounts of coverage. I'll link the three below so editors can make their own opinions:

https://comicbook.com/anime/news/pokemon-mewtwo-returns-manga-adaptation-anime/

https://www.ign.com/articles/best-pokemon-movies

https://www.google.com/books/edition/Doug_Pratt_s_DVD/vxmg-LuBTWIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22Pok%C3%A9mon:+Mewtwo+Returns%22+-wikipedia&pg=PA944&printsec=frontcover

This was all I could turn up. The current sources used in the article are a press release (Which is PRIMARY) and a book source, which, from what little I could get out of the preview, just seems to be a summary of Toho published films and nothing more, with no depth of significant coverage from what I can garner. This leaves this article with maybe two sources that are significant coverage, and it could be less depending on which Doug Pratt wrote that book. There is literally no coverage on this film that I can find beyond this. Given the lack of coverage, I don't believe this film meets the GNG due to a distinct lack of SIGCOV. A viable AtD for this film is to "List of Pokémon films," where this film is listed already. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 23:47, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: the links provided in the nomination are to 2 short reviews, so with the rest of the existing coverage, I think a page can be retained but if others disagree, redirect to List_of_Pokémon_films#Television_specials, and merge and add sources (indeed listed there). The film was adapted in a book series in 2019; https://natalie.mu/comic/news/334745 and, the same year, in a 3D remake https://www.oricon.co.jp/news/2140041/full/) Significant coverage: https://filmaga.filmarks.com/articles/2893/3/ -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 01:02, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Mushy Yank Thank you for doing a double check through JP sources to see if I missed anything. To clarify, the 3D remake is for Pokémon: Mewtwo Strikes Back – Evolution, a remake of Pokémon: The First Movie, which are entirely separate films. I mentioned the manga announcement in my nom, but the JP source is basically the same in terms of info as the Comicbook source, and is similarly just covering the work's announcement, so I'm not sure it's very helpful for showing significant coverage, as this would also fall under ROUTINE.

The significant coverage source (Filmaga) is primarily just a one paragraph synopsis. The source primarily focuses on Pokémon: The First Movie, and the paragraph on this film acts as part of a brief summary for other appearances of Mewtwo rather than acting as the main focus of the article, so I'm not sure if it falls under Wikipedia:SIGCOV at all, and even then it wouldn't help with Wikipedia:NOTPLOT, as it's mostly plot details and nothing more. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 01:33, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to List_of_Pokémon_films#Television_specials - None of the above sources are SIGCOV (including Filmaga, it's just a short paragraph) but Rotten Tomatoes lists reviews by film critic Christopher Null and DVD Talk. Unfortunately Null's review is a permanent dead link: [1], you can also see the review listed here: [2]. So that leaves only the DVD Talk review, which isn't enough for GNG. --Mika1h (talk) 01:36, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Pokémon: The First Movie as the closest thing to it. I am not convinced it passes GNG, even if the missing review were found. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 04:29, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Vortex electrowinning

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Poorly sourced draft that was moved into mainspace. A WP:BEFORE search turned up little. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 18:46, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Fixed orphan page issue AlexChig (talk) 18:15, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Martin Luther Academy

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No refs on the page for many years. Nothing much else found. Per WP:SCHOOLRFC existence does not imply notability. JMWt (talk) 19:04, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete as per nom

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National selections for the Eurovision Song Contest

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While the national selections for the Eurovision Song Contest of each individual country may be considered notable, e.g. Melodifestivalen in Sweden or Melodi Grand Prix in Norway, and while I do believe there is scope for including information on individual country's selections within their own articles (see San Marino in the Eurovision Song Contest#Selection process for a good example of this), I do not believe that there is justification for hosting a list of every single national selection which may have been held. I believe that this article contravenes several of Wikipedia's guidelines, including WP:LISTCRIT, WP:NOTDIRECTORY (specifically point 2 on "lists or repositories of loosely associated topics"), and in parts I believe this also falls down on WP:GNG as well as WP:OR (given the vast majority of information here is unsourced). I propose deleting the article and merging any useful, sourced parts into Eurovision Song Contest and individual country articles. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 20:09, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: WP:NLIST says: "Lists that fulfill recognized informational, navigation, or development purposes often are kept regardless of any demonstrated notability.", and the set seems notable anyway; the informations are not ’loosely" associated. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 08:59, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Strong keep. W/rt/ your statement that I do not believe that there is justification for hosting a list of every single national selection which may have been held. It is inarguable that the Eurovision selection process has been given substantial attention by RS, and that therefore that this list meets WP:NLIST. Addressing arguments point by point:
1. LISTCRIT: How is this list not specific enough for that to be a problem?
2. NOTDIR: Again, this list is very specific, so no issue with "loosely associated topics"
3. GNG: Relevant criterion is NLIST, which is met as per above (and arguably irrelevant anyhow per Mushy Yank)
4. OR: I fail to see how this list has any problems with that, rather than WP:verifiability, to which I point to WP:NOTCLEANUP
5. I propose deleting the article and merging any useful, sourced parts into Eurovision Song Contest and individual country articles. The high-level main Eurovision contest article would be far too unwieldy with all this information
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Delete the table only. While selections are an important part of the Eurovision realm, this table/list format is not appropriate to convey that. The prose describing how entries are selected is all that is needed and in fact should be expanded as how entries were selected tends to be a point of discussion for the contest. I don't understand the point of the table. It is not user friendly, not accessible, and just serves as a dumping ground for unsourced information. Modern contests could have readily accessible refs, but the older ones are not as prevalent or accessible. That on its face is not the biggest issue, but rather every process is different depending on country, so grouping things by labels as just "national final" or "internal selection" is far too vague. Adding additional context would further create readability issues. Some select just a singer internally, some a song internally, some both the singer and the song internally; meanwhile some national finals have an open call for applicants, others have contestants that are internally selected, and yet still others have one singer they've selected singing singer multiple songs for consideration. If I want to see how a country selects their entry, I can navigate to their country's article (i.e. San Marino, Romania, etc.). There are far too many variables to present this information at this manufactured high level. Grk1011 (talk) 13:28, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Grk1011 Votes to the effect of "Keep under the condition that..." shouldn't be cast, since discussions about improving the article belong on the article talk page, not here. Mach61 17:20, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not exactly. If it's on the fence, I think the evidence presented leans more towards delete. There should be a place that discusses how entries are selected, but currently this article is not that in any meaningful way. The contest's website only discusses this with fewer than a dozen sentences, something which as of now could fully be part of the Eurovision Song Contest article without undue weight. Grk1011 (talk) 18:03, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Grk1011 I think you misunderstand the page. It is not a regular article about the selection process that happens to contain a large list, it is a list-class page of all the broadcasters each Eurovision participant uses for their national finals, that just so happens to have some explication of the process for context. I agree that the non-list conent could be merged into the main article easily enough, but the list is the entire point of the page. You ought to be voting "Delete" Mach61 19:22, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That is why I !voted delete overall. The list is the worst part of this article for the reasons I listed above. This type of information is not properly conveyed in list form as it varies so much from country to country. Between the columns being misleading (there are more than just "national final" and "internal selection") and there being no way to compare country vs country via sort or quantity of any well-defined metric, I'm not sure what we're doing here. Grk1011 (talk) 13:32, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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GMX Mail

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A before struggles to find any in-depth coverage in independent sources fails Wikipedia:Notability (web). Theroadislong (talk) 21:35, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. GMX was a very popular email service in Germany in the early 2000s. Horst-Dieter Radke's 2004 book GMX: Mail und mehr is entirely about GMX webmail, and several other Markt+Technik-published books have shorter sections on GMX. ZDNet Deutschland reported on security problems and missing email in 2000. It'd be worth checking archives for German computer magazines com! and c't as well, if anyone's got access to them (coverage on IA is spotty, but it appears that c't 2011 issue 5 had a discussion of GMX's mail services for mobile phones, for example). Adam Sampson (talk) 00:53, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oxfordshire Historic Churches Trust

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Could not find third party coverage to meet WP:ORG. Of the 2 sources, first one is its own website, the other is dead. LibStar (talk) 23:07, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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List of West Virginia cryptids

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One good source for mothman, others are WBOY-TV and a local station's site w/ news. Only list of cryptids for a state, don't see categories or lists by country. Removed some sources before nominating. fiveby(zero) 22:01, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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*Keep Sadly, *Merge to West Virginia folklore (as this is slightly more isefull overall. ~~but this could be useful~~ as I was not even aware the Snallygaster was a real myth, so it has been informative, I suppose a push Merge with list of cryptids.But I can see why a more local list could have use. Slatersteven (talk) 09:35, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. There's no particular need for there to be other articles or lists by state in order for this one to exist; others could just as easily be created if they're supported by reliable sources. The question is whether reliable sources for the creatures on this list exist, not whether they're currently cited. There will obviously be lots of sources for Mothman and the Flatwoods Monster, not as sure about the others. But I'm pretty sure a search will turn up news articles about some of them, and I've seen books on West Virginia folklore that presumably mention more than these two—I seem to recall one with the Flatwoods Monster on the cover—and it's not a requirement that sources be available over the internet. A trip to the library may be in order, but remember, there's no deadline to improve articles, and that's what this is: an article in need of improved sourcing, not one that's impossible to source. P Aculeius (talk) 13:38, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Folklore should go into West Virginia folklore and better lists would might be folklore creatures by country or maybe even state. That is a big problem with some of these articles, they turn 'folklore' into 'cryptids' and use and attract a lot of dubious sources to do it. Anyway made some more edits to the list article. fiveby(zero) 14:30, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

All of your numerous edits—besides nominating the article for deletion—have been deletion of material from the article: around 2,000 bytes so far. It looks like you're attempting deletion piece-by-piece so that you can make the argument that there's not enough left to keep! That's not how this should work. Did you look for sources, or just delete the ones that didn't meet your personal inclusion criteria, and then all of the items that were no longer sufficiently supported by the remaining sources? I note that in one case, you deleted an item because the cited source didn't call it a "cryptid". It may be that this article is mis-titled, and it would be better called something like "monsters of West Virginia" or "monsters and creatures of folklore from West Virginia". That's not an argument for deletion—but it seems to be providing the basis for shrinking the list in support of deleting it! Chopping up a short article that you yourself nominated for deletion—within a day of its creation, and without any attempt to identify issues that might be addressed by means short of deletion, or sources that could be added—seems like a poor way of dealing with a new article. P Aculeius (talk) 16:31, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I thought i was attempting deletion by AfD no? Everyone can see my edits in the history and disagree or not—and edit the article. I kinda remember letting everyone know i had made edits, lets see: Removed some sources before nominating and just above Anyway made some more edits to the list article. I did not really look for sources, thought it hardly worth the effort. Did note an ISBN in an edit summary if anyone wants to try and find it. There is one source there which collects a West Virginia list of cryptids. I nominated, as i thought i had said in the above, because it was a one-of-a-kind when there are no country lists even. There's some disagreement as to whether there should be a main list at all.

It's not my "personal inclusion criteria" but my best interpretation of other peoples. If you disagree, go revert. I've dug through plenty of sources looking at cryptids and argued to keep occasionally. Just don't like calling a deer a horse. fiveby(zero) 17:23, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. It's true this is a first-of-its-kind list for cryptids specifying a state, but it does create a useful resource and fits in with other research info about West Virginia. See Category:West Virginia-related lists, and Category:West_Virginia_history-related_lists. 5Q5|^✉ 13:41, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to West Virginia folklore. These aren't notable things requiring their own list, they're just ghost stories. Reywas92^Talk 14:38, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge (the sources at least) to West Virginia folklore. This was an unnecessary spinoff that doesn't serve any purpose. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 21:54, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete.~~, weak support~~~~. There may be a world in which this list could be salvaged. As it stands, t~~The list itself is not clearly notable and the flurry of recent edits have led to a massive removal of items and references. These removals are appropriate. I'm not too concerned about the reliability of a local TV news station for individual cryptids, although it additional sources would be stronger. The bigger issues is the notability of the list itself. I also weakly ~~oppose outright~~support selectively merging with West Virginia folklore on the basis of the concern about editors blurring the line between folklore and cryptids. Individual cases or references that warrant inclusion can be manually incorporated into WV folklore.--MYCETEAE 🍄‍🟫—talk 20:59, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Amending to full support for deletion after further consideration of the comments made by others and issues on pages for related topics. My top concern is the lack of notability for the topic itself. A close second is the lack of selection criteria for this list specifically and the lack of clear definition of cryptid generally.--MYCETEAE 🍄‍🟫—talk 18:30, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete and/or Merge anything of value into West Virginia folklore without the use of pseudoscientific terminology like cryptid. These are all entities from folklore — the cryptozoology coat of paint is WP:PROFRINGE — and we already have the extremely dubious list of cryptids with no criteria. :bloodofox: (talk) 21:47, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Doing a WP:GTEST I found these mainstream sources (including Skeptical Inquirer) all using the term "cryptid" in their reporting on West Virginia. None is currently used in the article as I write this: [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9], [10], [11], [12], [13], [14]. 5Q5|^✉ 12:38, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Fadaei

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An article that was moved from draftspace by the creator. The sources in the article are of poor quality, and a WP:BEFORE search comes up with nothing. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 22:06, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Note Fadaei is one of the famous political Iranian rapper, but in Iran news sources are routine event recaps, And they don't cover the political rappers while the rappers should be arrested or under sentenced to death

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@AmirX0213 What you're saying is, regardless of whether or not Fadaei qualifies for an article, it's a complex political situation. Right? I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 14:59, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, because hipHop music in Iran is illegal and The News source in Iran is Under control of Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps ,but Fadaei is notable as he was one of the founder Moltafet music group and these days he manage this group and as a rapper his got General notability guideline AmirX0213 (talk) 16:02, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@AmirX0213 Both for better and for worse, people can only be notable with significant mentions in multiple, independent/third-party, secondary sources. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 17:02, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@I dream of horses sure, by the way he got some sources which I mentioned them on his references and specially like bbc and he his highly searched on google. And in notable farsi sources they tried to unkind him. I didn't mentioned them in references AmirX0213 (talk) 18:44, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@AmirX0213 Yeah, it seems that you're trying to add new sources, at least. I might look at the references later. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 21:45, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@I dream of horses thank you so much, at least 8 iranian notable sources added AmirX0213 (talk) 11:27, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep the sources can be impvrove and he's notable as well

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Kingsley Okonkwo

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An article about a "family life and relationship coach, TV personality, and author" sourced entirely to shady pieces. While most of the publications are reliable on their own, the pieces sourced to are either unreliable, of the subject's opinion, run of the mill coverages or vanispamcruft. It's either the subject is publishing their opinion or it's an unreliable "things you need to know about X" piece. Nothing to confer inherent notability here either. Fails WP:GNG over all. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 23:03, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak Keep: The subject appears notable and subject of discussion in national dailies here, here and could pass [Wp:GNG|GNG] with wide coverage. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hackesan (talk • contribs) 12:14, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. The sources are extremely weak -- promotional puff pieces, primary source interviews, trivial mentions, etc. I'm not seeing anything to qualify for notability. The sources offered by the weak keep !voter are (1) a puff piece based solely on an interview with the subject and (2) an unbylined article that reads like an official bio and includes facts that are likely to be sourced directly from the subject. Dclemens1971 (talk) 17:42, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Per nom and Dclemens. Sources present and in searches I made does not help to establish the general notability criteria nor does the topic qualify for any subject-specific criterias. Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 11:16, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Chinese Mental Health Association

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Marked for notability concerns since December 2022. I could not find significant coverage to meet WP:ORG. LibStar (talk) 22:54, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: I don't find anything for this organization. The sourcing used is primary, so I'm not sure we have notability. Oaktree b (talk) 22:56, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ri Yong-chol

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 22:37, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Aditya Singh Rana

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I think WP:GYMNAST has been updated since last AfD. Simply competing in World Championships is not enough. Needs significant coverage and only a directory listing is provided. LibStar (talk) 22:23, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy keep‎. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure) Helpful Raccoon (talk) 22:28, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Garden of The Hesperides

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No significant, independent coverage found; the sources in the article are either unrelated to the painting or come from the Memorial Art Gallery where the painting is. This is one of several borderline-notable or non-notable articles created without any outside review as part of a WikiEdu class at the University of Rochester to publish articles about their paintings. I suggest a redirect to M. Louise Stowell. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 21:56, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Withdrawing this and draftifying the article; draftifying is a better option so as not to disturb the review portion of the WikiEdu class. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 22:27, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Withdrawn by nominator‎. (non-admin closure) Nate • (chatter) 22:22, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jennifer Pan

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Fails WP:NACADEMIC, a scholar without a named chair, prestigious honors, or other apparent inclusion criteria. ☆ Bri (talk) 21:55, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

NOMINATION WITHDRAWN, I missed WP:Articles for deletion/Jennifer Pan (professor) ☆ Bri (talk) 21:59, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Flying Days

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References do not prove the significance of the film. There are no references at all in Russian Wikipedia. There are also no awards or professional reviews.--Анатолий Росдашин (talk) 20:19, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: WP:NFILM indicates that a film can be considered notable if it is considered a major part in the career of a notable film personality; this is, as one of the sources on the page indicates, one of the most notable roles of Vera Alentova in her acting debut; it is also a noted role in the career of Nikolay Olyalin (again, a source is on the page); it is also, it goes without saying, a work that features significant involvement of its director, Nikolai Litus. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 23:28, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lampad

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There's only one source for these nymphs - a fragment of Alcman that says they are the torch-bearers of Hecate. The details about them being gifts from Zeus or what exactly they do are, as far as I can tell, either made up or a conflation of other details about Hecate. That they are torch-bearers of Hecate is something that can be noted in the relevant column on the nymph page. Endlesspumpkin (talk) 20:22, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Real-time Cmix

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Nominated 18 days ago, and there was no participation, so it was soft deleted. The soft deletion was challenged, the article was restored 11 hours ago, and it's still not well sourced. I'm guessing unilateral draftication, a redirect, or other alternatives to deletion may also be challenged, so I'm nominating this for an AfD discussion. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 19:29, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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History of India as a political entity

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Seems a synthetic topic, potentially doubling as a content fork. None of the cited sources are comparative as the article purports itself to be, and do not otherwise indicate the material as something other than an original synthesis. Remsense ‥ 论 19:19, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Thr article is basically about an contrast to how people view Historical India as a region.

It points out political entities in the Indian subcontinent which called themselves India in any language or form.

Like Mughals, Mauryas,Etc.

Could you tell me which sources are wrong as you are saying, i will surely sort them out and correct the JingJongPascal (talk) 19:26, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You can't create an article juxtaposing whichever elements according to whatever criteria you want if sources do not themselves do that: that is original synthesis, a form of original research. If there are reliable sources that themselves compare and contrast these polities according to your criteria then you have to present and cite them, otherwise you are using sources that are focused on each individual polity to draw conclusions and observations that none of them individually make themselves.. Remsense ‥ 论 19:34, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What sources are wrong?

Each source is representing what they were called natively.

If your problem is with my articles title of India as a political entity and if you think this does not draw conclusions then maybe we can discuss for alternative name of the article? JingJongPascal (talk) 19:38, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please see the policy I linked multiple times. Again, the problem regards the subject of the article itself, which seems to be entirely synthetic on your part. You can't make an article juxtaposing whatever information you want, even if each individual piece of information is sourced. I would not be allowed to publish History of political entities whose names begin with J because that is not itself a subject established or attested in sources, even if Japan, Jin, and Jalalabad are individually. By putting them together in an article, you are making connections that are not substantiated: that is original synthesis. Remsense ‥ 论 03:19, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I will support a deletion here since problem with this article is that its just baseless, India's history as a region is already covered in History of India and as a nation state in History of Republic of India.This article is just unnecessary and useless.Also, per @Remsense's arguments.Thanks. Edasf (talk) 04:12, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete As Remsense said there's no sources discussing this topic in a way that would differentiate it from the similar one found in India#History. Country articles contain a history section that goes back further than whatever their current political system is. France#History starts way before 1958, for example. All of the major groups and events that would be in this article would no doubt have a place in India#History - and so far as I can tell they already do. Wizmut (talk) 20:16, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I will stress the fundamental criteria seem particularly arbitrary: why not just "large states in historical India", if not because this particular collection is meant to illustrate a more specific conception of the history? Sources would need to exist that support and analyze such a conception. Remsense ‥ 论 20:22, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - we are not here trying to lay down or advocate for certain historical views. We are supposed to reflect what others have written. Unless there are sources which substantially cover this topic as framed here, the page trying to do something outside of the remit of an encyclopedia. JMWt (talk) 20:25, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as per nom. over generalized title as well UzbukUdash (talk) 05:09, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
i understand all arguments ,so can we maybe work on alternative name of the article? Or maybe merging it with another article? JingJongPascal (talk) 06:56, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We could change the article's name to "Historical usage of India" or "Historical usage of India as a political entity"?

That woud fit better JingJongPascal (talk) 08:09, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tampa Pro (skateboard competition)

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Non-notable skateboard competition. GilaMonster536 (talk) 18:56, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Rosemount High School (Montreal)

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No refs on the page. Nothing much found which could count towards the notability criteria and schools do not have inherent notability. JMWt (talk) 19:02, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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DELETE as per nomination

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Bruno Bertez

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Refunded after soft deletion, but the subject still fails WP:GNG and WP:NBIO due to insufficient WP:SIGCOV. Dclemens1971 (talk) 18:59, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete No attempt seems to be made since the REFUND to update the article and large section are still unsourced. What sources are there are made up of routine annoucements and a small history of he paper which is a passing mention. Fails WP:SIGCOV, WP:BIO. No secondary sources on a WP:BLP that need high quality soures that are not there. scope_creep^Talk 05:17, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ruben Papian

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No significant coverage, as only two 'news' style sources seem to exist. The first is a 138-word article discussing a product he's selling [15] and the other is a promotional article in Lepota & Zdravlje [16] All the other sources are his blog, dead links, and one listing of a conference appearance.

The actual text is full of gems like "In 2004 Ruben devoted his time to understanding esoterica and hidden abilities of space and matter" and "In 2015 Ruben discovered metaphysical abilities of wood cells^{[citation needed]}" Wizmut (talk) 18:55, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Though the article used to be worse than it is now, it is irredeemably promotional with sizeable WP:V issues. Geschichte (talk) 20:25, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

DELETE, NOT enough intext citations UzbukUdash (talk) 05:16, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 07:01, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

1881 America's Cup

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Insufficient sources, fails in WP:EVENTS, and there is a history of a copyvio which is addressed (1253102988) and there is no categories too WP:CAT. Royiswariii (talk) 17:52, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - The America's Cup by Roland Folger Coffin and The America's Cup Races by Herbert Lawrence Stone both have WP:SIGCOV of the event. Hatman31 (he/him · talk · contribs) 23:14, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The defence was notable as Canadian attempt. Sufficient information for a stub remains after the copyright material removed and improvements relatively trivial. Some such as categorisation to Americas Cup should be done if agreed keep. There are even senior administrators who follow the cup I might be able to interest in improving as they follow the modern version of the cup. They simply will not know of this proposed deletion as I only stumbled across it due to notification of copyright infringement which I sometimes monitor, not any past contribution. ChaseKiwi (talk) 10:21, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Malinaccier (talk) 18:46, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Categories added and copyvio long addressed. Nate • (chatter) 21:36, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

KEEP. need more sourcing UzbukUdash (talk) 05:16, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Omspace

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Fails WP:ORG and WP:GNG - The9Man ^Talk 18:41, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Araya (video game)

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Fails WP:GNG. Bloody Disgusting ref is a news announcement, not significant coverage. Reviews in azralynn.com and the two additional reviews listed at Mobygames: [17] (Brash Games, GameAwards.ru) are self published sources, no indication that they are reliable. Brash Games is also listed as unreliable at WP:VG/S. Mika1h (talk) 18:20, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Per nom. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 19:03, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Plenty of in-depth coverage in Thai[18][19][20], including a scoop on Thai PBS [21]. --Paul_012 (talk) 05:48, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Statue of Donald Trump (Philadelphia)

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WP:NOTNEWS, and a variation on Wikipedia:Not every single thing Donald Trump does deserves an article. It happened, yes, but what is the lasting impact? It's just another protest against a politician, though in a somewhat original format, which gave it 5 minutes of fame. Fram (talk) 17:28, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Draftify to give possible time for improvements and to wait for potential future coverage. Not ready for main space.

-1ctinus📝🗨 17:31, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If kept, it should be merged with Statue of Donald Trump (Portland, Oregon), which is a copy of the same piece. Not sure why two pages were made for it. The same artist apparently also made The Donald J. Trump Enduring Flame and January 6 United States Capitol attack memorial so they could all be merged together since sources like [22] cover them together – there's a lot of temporary protest art that that receives brief news coverage but doesn't individually need standalone articles (also Crooked and Obscene). Or merge to Donald_Trump_in_popular_culture#Art. Certainly not make as many one-line articles as fast as possible – that's what draft space is for! Reywas92^Talk 18:26, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Draftify I'm not sure Wikipedia should keep any of them. Please see There’s no such thing as bad publicity (i.e. things like this keep his name and image before the pubic). On the other hand, I don't see Wikipedia guidelines on what to do about this. — Maile (talk) 19:04, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think the Philadelphia and Portland statues are similar, but not the same. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 19:27, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
[23] says "An identical one showed up in Portland, Oregon earlier this week". They're not as identical as bronze casts, but they are still functionally enough the same that there is no reason for two separate articles. Reywas92^Talk 19:39, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Non-notable temporary art installation. Nate • (chatter) 21:40, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep merged page as redirect. Since there are now more sources covering both statues together, including some using "In Honor of a Lifetime of Sexual Assault" as the title for both, I've redirected the Philadelphia page and moved the Portland page so both can be covered under the official title. I've left the AfD tag on the redirect to avoid removing a template inappropriately. I request to have the redirect page kept (because it serves a purpose) and propose closing this discussion as moot. I've been bold here but hope this compromise / solution works for others. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 23:02, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep merged page as redirect

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Keep merged page as redirect as long as article it points to is accepted in main space Nnev66 (talk) 11:49, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy delete‎. WP:A11'd. asilvering (talk) 01:56, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Core Feelings Frameworks

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Tagged for CSD A11 by User:Fram, but removed by IP. Most likely the IP is the original article creator? Myrealnamm's Alternate Account (talk) 17:28, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There are no hits at all for "Core Feelings Frameworks" on Google, Google Books, or Google Scholar. Either a hoax or invented by the article creator, but should be speedy deleted in any case. Fram (talk) 17:29, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Fram I've speedied this Myrealnamm's Alternate Account (talk) 17:34, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Here (https://www.google.com/search?safe=active&sca_esv=52644926a031314b&q=Core+Feelings+Frameworks&tbm=bks&source=lnms&fbs=AEQNm0AbzhUJjXv6jRup8eVc0BvPyH5PazCaW205cG-Bd0in0SeU-Q4GVbDidOCCAlv8ddwnuh7lPh3aYhqMJdmlhqKO8rDglsPvyMjbq9rCVLJ_yLz05yoyCj0IoTno93uYggnncrva_zsbl3H2JwyDPuE0k8J4vY2YBA3Frocevnw4Zq1k8p7rDLwC7ext5SJbueHOkPBjAnWMao9oT43nuTKNuQGq3A&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjPrfjUk7mJAxUhEGIAHUY6LTQQ0pQJegQIUBAB&biw=1738&bih=819&dpr=1.1) there are plenty hits on google books for Core Feelings Frameworks, this subject have been investigated by Paul Ekman and many other respected researchers, so it will be a very good article on Wikipedia. The deletion suggestion would just shrink our knowledge. Chelky (talk) 17:37, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There are books which use the words "core", "feelings", and/or "Frameworks" separately. There are no books or other sources at all about "Core Feelings Frameworks" as one subject[24]. Fram (talk) 17:40, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I agree. There is an article in Wikipedia for this, named Emotion classification, where the information should be merged. I haven't seen that after searching. Chelky (talk) 17:46, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Admin note: I just declined the A11, not because I think it doesn't apply, but because I suspect there is some reference fabrication and possible spamming going on here and would appreciate some confirmation on that before jettisoning this to the void. (Please ping, my other notifs are broken.) -- asilvering (talk) 21:05, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello all editors and administrators that have some honesty and respect for humanity. I always thought that Wikipedia is a place for knowledge to grow and not to limit to certain narratives. Please see how User:Fram had opened this case with the allegation that this topic is a hoax with no hits even on Google, now I verified that not only it DOES appear on google, but also Wikipedia itself has already fully recognized this topic solely (and please, don't repeat that silly argument that they use different keywords). One page was already mentioned, which is Emotion classification and the other one - which I'm adding now - is named Discrete emotion theory. I see no request that those two pages should be merged, although they probably should, since the topic discussed is the same.

Here, I would respect a request that the article should be merged in one of the two old articles, as I have added myself the mergeto tag. But why User:asilvering starts here with fabrication accusation etc. sounds very odd to me. There are standard editings that are always be made, and I see no need for such alarms.Chelky (talk) 01:23, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry about that @Chelky, I misread a comment of yours involving a spam link. I'm now pretty confident that you weren't spamming on purpose. However, I'm also pretty confident that the speedy deletion was the right choice for this, so I'll close this deletion discussion and come by your talk page in a bit to give you some answers/advice. -- asilvering (talk) 01:55, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Yangdok station

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No refs on the page for many years. RS from NK are difficult, but I don't see how we determine if (or whether any of the) railway stations are notable. I'm inclined to think that none of them are, but that would involve deleting or redirecting quite a few WP pages. JMWt (talk) 16:48, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Pyongra Line as ATD. Mccapra (talk) 19:18, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment The korean article has a few sources, but if they are RS or not I'm not sure if they are RS. Jumpytoo Talk 04:09, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect. [25] and [26] verify existence which is sufficient for a redirect. I wasn't able to find anything in-depth, but my search was limited to English and detailed sources are most likely to be in Korean. Thryduulf (talk) 11:14, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

John Morrison (drummer)

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Fails WP:GNG and subject specific guidelines. No secondary sources exist, only his biography and portfolio. — BerryForPerpetuity (talk) 16:36, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect for now to James Morrison (jazz musician)#Morrison Brothers. Two relevant references are given there, including this one, so the claim that No secondary sources exist is dubious. But while I'm hopeful that this article should and will be reinstated in the future, I don't have time to do the relevant research right now. It would be mainly and perhaps entirely print sources, so unfortunately it's a valid nomination. Happy if others would like to do the relevant research. Andrewa (talk) 08:23, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Junya Higashi

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This looks like a WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT failure. In the Japanese Wikipedia, all sources are non-independent (published by the subject's employers). The claim to notability, playing 113 minutes in Japan's first league and 18 matches in the third league, is weak. Geschichte (talk) 15:37, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Naoya Seita

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This looks like a WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT failure. In the Japanese Wikipedia, all sources are non-independent (published by the subject's employers) except for two dead at-s.com links. The claim to notability, playing 60 minutes in Japan's second league and 201 minutes in the third league, is extremely weak. Geschichte (talk) 15:36, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Michael Koppelman

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Fails WP:GNG no significant coverage in reliable independent sources. Theroadislong (talk) 15:29, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete The sources cited in this article obviously fall very much short of establishing notability, and BEFORE finds only the usual social media etc. profiles plus a couple of interviews but nothing that would meet WP:GNG. --DoubleGrazing (talk) 15:44, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: This dates from the Wild West days of Wikipedia where next to no standards were applied in order to create a broad base of articles. Fails WP:BIO. WP:V. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 17:14, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Kablammo (talk) 09:54, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Trasna

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Non-notable company; fails WP:NCORP. Coverage available (both in article and in WP:BEFORE search does not meet the WP:ORGCRIT -- instead, it's all a mix of primary sources, trivial mentions, press releases, niche WP:TRADES publications and coverage that would be excluded as WP:ORGTRIV. No reasonable redirect option. Dclemens1971 (talk) 15:20, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. Fails WP:GNG and WP:NCORP. Almost all of the sources (in the article and that I can find) are press releases, primary sources, passing mentions and otherwise the same type of coverage we might expect for any similar small company. The number of issues with the limited references that are in place (including FV and WP:REFBOMB concerns) is also concerning. Guliolopez (talk) 16:16, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Adrian White (author)

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NAUTHOR. From what I can see, no secondary, non-self published sources exist — BerryForPerpetuity (talk) 15:17, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Pyotr Berezin

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Fail WP:GNG, WP:BASIC, WP:NSPORT. As far as I have looked, the only sources that reference him are football databases. No secondary sources. — BerryForPerpetuity (talk) 15:10, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 23:13, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Chloe Piene

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This article was created by and most contributions are from single-purpose accounts. One of these is clearly the artist herself; I wonder if the others have conflicts of interest. One of them (Harajuku650) dropped the problem tags, though perhaps they felt they had addressed the flagged issues? It still sounds less than neutral. This article was tagged for notability issues, and I'm still unclear on whether it demonstrates notability. One editor also suggested it might be easier to delete and start from scratch than rewrite to eliminate the POV content. -- Beland (talk) 15:07, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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weak keep: The Getty ULAN has a biography and list of exhibits [27], this would seem to meet artist notability. The works reviewed (discussed near the end of the article) also show critical notice, which is what's needed for notability. Oaktree b (talk) 15:19, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment - This article is a mess. I started cleaning up the embedded links, changing them into inline citations. Most are garbage. I can't decide whether to skip the clean-up and just do a source analysis. Leaning towards rewriting this completely. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 01:02, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Aloysius Chidozie Ogbonna

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There is, as a matter of fact, no source to establish claims of significance or notability for the subject of this article. Sources are either primary, are closely related to the subject or are the subject's own opinion. From cursory search, nothing especially different and useful was found. Here lies my concern of critical undisclose paid editing from the author of this article or a close relation at best. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 14:58, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you for reviewing the article. I understand your concerns regarding notability and potential conflict of interest. I'll provide additional, independent sources to establish the subject's significance. I declare no conflict of interest or paid editing affiliation with the subject. I'll revise the article to enhance quality and neutrality. Please offer guidance on improving the article.

Thank you very much for the review. Danielehisaiguokhian (talk) 15:28, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Priyamvad

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Doesn't seem to be notable. I'm unable to find any coverage. Fails WP:BIO. --Ratekreel (talk) 13:19, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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@Ratekreel, When you nominated the article, at that time only two references were there in the article. Now number of references are 10+. All references are from national newspapers or books or authenticated government websites. Author have written many books, all can not be listed in the article. Two stories are base for two different bollywood films. Some work by the author is translated in multiple languages by well known authors and translators. Looking at these things, article should not be deleted. There are some research articles which are clearly comparing author's work with Premchand, which is also like an award for Hindi writers. ☆★Sanjeev Kumar (talk) 09:04, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - a made up in one day award for a writer who has gotten coverage - but in unreliable sources. The India Times was once a good source, but now it’s deprecated. The added sources are a wall of puffery. Bearian (talk) 15:36, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Battle of Tiruvadi

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Non-notable battle. None of the mentioned sources treat it as a notable battle. The reliable ones only make passing mention. Ratnahastin (talk) 14:20, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Asoz Rashid

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Previously deleted at AfD, and all sources given date from before the last AfD, so no indication that he became more notable in the meanwhile. Same issue as before, with the sources primarily being about iQ Group rather than the CEO himself. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 14:09, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. It looks like the same issues are present as those in the article that was previously deleted. Hogo-2020 (talk) 10:10, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Vishwa Bharti Women's College, Srinagar

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Completely unsourced article about a local "branch" of a "large educational complex" that doesn't have an article about the overarching entity (or at least not at the "Vishwa Bharti Women's Welfare Institution" name indicated by this article; if it does have one at a different name, I don't have the depth of knowledge about India needed to find it). As always, educational institutions are not "inherently" notable just for existing, and have to have GNG-worthy coverage to support an article with -- and if the parent institution isn't notable enough for an article, then a "branch" obviously can't be more notable than its parent entity. Bearcat (talk) 14:06, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to University of Kashmir: As the college’s website claims affiliation with the University of Kashmir, the majority of Indian colleges and schools with their own articles fail our notability guidelines, and the same applies to this college. No significant coverage sources were found. GrabUp - Talk 14:17, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect to University of Kashmir: As it was noted by GrabUp above that the college is affiliated with University of Kashmir, I too believe that it should be redirected to UoK rather than deleted. --Ratekreel (talk) 11:44, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Battle of Umberkhind

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Non-notable battle. None of the mentioned sources treat it as a notable battle. The reliable ones only make passing mention. Ratnahastin (talk) 14:05, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete as nom

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Jade Peters

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Neither of these people are notable enough to have articles, and no article links to this disambiguation page. ZimZalaBim ^talk 13:22, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. The correct redirects would be Jade-Lianna Peters and Jade Mayjean Peters. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:43, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Biratnagar Kings

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Teams that compete in a barely notable tournament, so don't need separate team articles. One team from the NPL was already redirected after AFD (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pokhara Avengers- though editors keep reverting that redirect against consensus)- and the same non notability applies to these other NPL teams. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:36, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Also nominating other NPL team:

Keep: This team already participated in the Dhangadi Premier League and have many coverage article about it in Nepal.Godknowme1 (talk) 13:47, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If coverage exists, please add it. Everything on these articles so far is WP:ROUTINE. Just because they've competing in another league, that doesn't mean we need a separate team article, unless they meet WP:GNG with WP:SIGCOV. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:19, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. The Nepal Premier League is notable, but the teams in it are not. AA (talk) 16:20, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Sporting franchises that sign international players are notable on their own. MurrayBird (talk) 03:10, 29 October 2024 (UTC) — MurrayBird (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

That's not how WP:GNG works, and WP:NOTINHERITED applies to this argument too. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:48, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Per nom. Shrug02 (talk) 17:53, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep : NPL Franchise teams are popular internationally and many internationally known players are signed by these players. User: NiseEdits (talk) 16:35, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Another WP:ILIKEIT vote violating WP:NOTINHERITED. I hope the closing admin realises that none of these keep votes have mentioned WP:GNG or attempted to provide substantial reliable sources. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:29, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: This article does not pass WP:GNG. All of the sources are WP:ROUTINE none of them are notable, and there's no WP:SIGCOV. I agree with the nom's WP:NOTINHERITED argument as well - the fact that some of the players are notable does not qualify the team for a standalone article. DesiMoore (talk) 16:13, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

James Drummond Anderson (1886–1968)

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No refs on the page for many years. I haven't been able to WP:V the facts on the page and not seen much to suggest that this colonial administrator meets the notability standards for inclusion. I would be interested to hear what others can find. JMWt (talk) 13:05, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Subject lacks significant coverage to meet WP:Notability (People) Tesleemah (talk) 13:13, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment If as claimed, is a knight, would be notable under Wikipedia:Notability (awards and honors). Djflem (talk) 20:29, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep satisfies WP:ANYBIO criteria 1 (knighthood) and (essentially) 3 (portrait held at National Portait Gallery). Regards, --Goldsztajn (talk) 10:05, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
FWIW, references have now been added so that all information can be verified. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 19:54, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Ivan Ageyev

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Fails WP:GNG. No evidence of WP:SIGCOV. Needs secondary sources about the subject of the article. --Анатолий Росдашин (talk) 12:08, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete

If the article is not notable, it isn't great to have it on Wikipedia. But, is the person notable? if WP:SIGCOV is violated, it does not need a wikipedia article. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Cooldudeseven7 _{join in on the tea talk} 13:11, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Another in the many hundreds of NN hockey articles created by Dolovis, and for which he was TBANned from new article creation. Even before participation standards were deprecated, there's no actual evidence that this ephemeral player ever played in the top-flight. Odds that even a dedicated search would not turn up SIGCOV for a fleeting career in the Russian minor leagues. Ravenswing 20:13, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Xiao-i

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does not clearly demonstrate the company's notability through significant independent sources, which is a key requirement for Wikipedia. Much of the information appears to rely on primary or promotional sources, lacking in-depth third-party coverage that would confirm its broader impact or importance. Additionally, the article may contain promotional language, which violates Wikipedia's guidelines on neutrality RodrigoIPacce (talk) 12:14, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: Adding another FindSources for an alternate company name which is used in coverage of the case with Apple:

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Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.
1. Journal articles:
  1. "小i机器人为每个人的生活带来改变" [Xiao-i Robot brings changes to everyone's life]. 信息对抗技术 [Software Industry and Engineering] (in Chinese) (2): 33–37. 2013. ISSN 2097-163X. Retrieved 2024-10-28 – via CQVIP [zh].
    The abstract notes: "小i机器人成立于2001年，长期专注于智能机器人技术研究和开发，在自然语言处理和人机交互技术方面已经获得了多项国家发明专利。业务涉及通信、金融、政府、电子商务、智能家电和汽车等行业，经过十多年实际项目的不断验证和优化，小帆器人在智能人机交互（文本、语音等）的全渠道整合应用上领先中国，已成为中国智能机器人第一品牌。"
    From Google Translate: "Xiao-i was founded in 2001 and has long been focusing on the research and development of intelligent robot technology. It has obtained a number of national invention patents in natural language processing and human-computer interaction technology. Its business involves communications, finance, government, e-commerce, smart home appliances and automobiles. After more than ten years of continuous verification and optimization of actual projects, Xiaofan Robot leads China in the omni-channel integrated application of intelligent human-computer interaction (text, voice, etc.) and has become the No. 1 brand of intelligent robots in China."
  2. "由"小i机器人"案引发的探讨" [Discussion triggered by the "Xiao-i" case]. 知识产权法研究 [Intellectual Property Right Law Research] (in Chinese) (1): 63–74. 2017. Retrieved 2024-10-28 – via CQVIP [zh].
    The abstract notes: "从苹果公司向专利复审委员会申请无效宣告伊始,'小i机器人'案历经一审、二审,北京市高级人民法院最终撤销一审判决。对于该案中所涉及的专利说明书充分公开标准及该领域技术人员的判断标准也引起了各方关注。该专题以'东方知识产权沙龙第27讲'内容为基础,以公开充分为切入点,对专利文件的体系化理解进行梳理与反思,并围绕技术类案件之特点进行讨论,以期更多人关注专利制度与相关实践"
    From Google Translate: "Since Apple applied to the Patent Reexamination Board for invalidation, the "Xiao-i" case has gone through the first and second trials, and the Beijing High People's Court finally revoked the first-instance judgment. The full disclosure standard of the patent specification involved in this case and the judgment standard of technicians in this field have also attracted attention from all parties. This topic is based on the content of "Lecture 27 of the Oriental Intellectual Property Salon", takes full disclosure as the starting point, sorts out and reflects on the systematic understanding of patent documents, and discusses the characteristics of technical cases, in order to attract more attention to the patent system and related practices."
  3. "能互动改变生活——小i机器人亮相软博会智能机器人技术引关注" [Intelligent interaction changes life - Xiao-i debuts at Soft Expo, intelligent robot technology attracts attention]. 软件产业与工程 [Software Industry and Engineering] (in Chinese) (6): 6–7. 2014. Retrieved 2024-10-28 – via CQVIP [zh].
    The article notes: "5月29日～31日，由工业和信息化部、国家发展和改革委员会、... 作为上海团队的代表企业，小i机器人（上海智臻网络科技有限公司）携带其最新的实体服务机器人亮相展会,吸引了大批观众现场互动，其中不乏领导、专家及各大媒体，成为软博会展馆中众人瞩目的焦点。"
    From Google Translate: "From 29 to 31 May 29, the Ministry of Industry and Information Technology, the National Development and Reform Commission,... As the representative enterprise of the Shanghai team, Xiao-i (Shanghai Zhizhen Network Technology Co., Ltd.) brought its latest physical service robot to the exhibition, attracting a large number of audiences to interact on the spot, including leaders, experts and major media, and became the focus of everyone's attention in the exhibition hall of the Software Expo."
2. Books:
  1. Liu, Fangdong 刘芳栋; Lin, Wei 林伟; Zhu, Jianliang 朱建良; Zhang, Xinliang 张新亮 (2016). 机器人+:正在席卷全球的机器人革命 [Robots: Robot Is Over the World's Robot Revolution] (in Chinese). Beijing: China Railway Publishing House [zh]. ISBN 978-3-16-148410-0. Retrieved 2024-10-28 – via Google Books.
    The book notes: "小i机器人是由上海智臻网络科技有限公司开发的,后来在交通银行的支持下,小i机器人率先被应用于银行业,在银行大厅中担任起了大堂经理,可以通过语音功能与客户进行自然的沟通,帮助客户解答有关银行业务方面的疑问。小i机器人除了被应用于实体机器人Ina外,还被应用在了负责接待的机器人Nao、智能扫地机器人及一系列的智能家居产品上,而且它们都有一个共同的属性——服务机器人。"
    From Google Tranlate: "The Xiao-i robot was developed by Shanghai Zhizhen Network Technology Co., Ltd. Later, with the support of Bank of Communications, the Xiao-i robot was first used in the banking industry and served as a lobby manager in the bank lobby. It can communicate with customers naturally through voice functions and help customers answer questions about banking business. In addition to being used in the physical robot Ina, the Xiao-i robot is also used in the reception robot Nao, the smart sweeping robot and a series of smart home products, and they all have a common attribute - service robots."
  2. 人工智能实践录 [Artificial Intelligence Practice] (in Chinese). Beijing: Posts & Telecommunications Press [zh]. 2020. ISBN 978-7-115-50553-8. Retrieved 2024-10-28 – via Google Books.
    The book notes: "案例31:小i机器人—12345城市管理自流程系统小i机器人与贵阳市人民政府共同打造的国家级“人工智能大数据云服务平台”,发挥贵阳大数据综合试验区数据基础优势和小i在人工智能关键技术(自然语言处理、深度语义理解、知识表示和推理、语音识别、机器学习和分析决策等)、行业应用积累和人才方面的优势,并将平台的核心能力与贵阳政务治理、"
    From Google Translate: "Case 31: Xiao-i - 12345 City Management Self-Process System The national-level "AI Big Data Cloud Service Platform" jointly built by Xiao-i and Guiyang Municipal People's Government leverages the data foundation advantages of Guiyang Big Data Comprehensive Experimental Zone and Xiaoi's advantages in key AI technologies (natural language processing, deep semantic understanding, knowledge representation and reasoning, speech recognition, machine learning and analytical decision-making, etc.), industry application accumulation and talent, and integrates the core capabilities of the platform with Guiyang government governance,"
3. Analyst reports:
  1. Lantier, Brian (2024-08-28). "Xiao-I Corporation-ADS" (PDF). Zacks Investment Research. Archived from the original (PDF) on 2024-10-28. Retrieved 2024-10-28.
    The analyst report notes: "As we have noted in the past, Xiao-I has made several attempts to demonstrate the potential of its AI tools by integrating its chatbot technology into everyday products. To date, we have seen these tools deployed for a “smart” baby crib to monitor sleep patterns or a “smart” speaker that could act as a virtual therapist. In our opinion, these products were principally built to demonstrate use cases for the company’s technology, but they did not have broad commercial application and the cost to develop hardware would make them cost-prohibitive for Xiao-I to bring to market."
    The analyst report notes: "Investors may recall that in our initiation report we briefly mentioned that in 2012, the company sued a subsidiary of Apple for patent infringement related to Apple’s Siri tool. Xiao-I alleges that Siri infringes on its intelligent assistant patent. The company updated that lawsuit in 2020 seeking damages in excess of $1.0 billion. We have held the belief that this lawsuit is unlikely to result in a meaningful settlement or win for Xiao-I but given the size of the damages being sought investors should be aware of the suit."
4. News articles:
  1. Fang, Jia-liang 房家梁 (2019-11-28). "小i机器人入选胡润2019中国人工智能企业"百强榜"" [Xiao-i was selected into Hurun's 2019 China Artificial Intelligence Enterprise "Top 100 List"] (in Chinese). China News Service. Archived from the original on 2024-10-28. Retrieved 2024-10-28.
    The article notes: "近日，财富榜排榜机构胡润研究院携手知识产权与科创云平台汇桔，联合发布《IP助燃AI新纪元—2019中国人工智能产业知识产权发展白皮书》 (以下简称“白皮书”)，小i机器人与华为、... 共同入选《2019中国人工智能企业知识产权竞争力百强榜》，并跻身百强榜第33名。"
    From Google Translate: "Recently, the Hurun Research Institute, a ranking organization of the Fortune list, and the intellectual property and science and technology innovation cloud platform Huiju jointly released the "IP Fueling the New Era of AI - 2019 China Artificial Intelligence Industry Intellectual Property Development White Paper", hereinafter referred to as the "White Paper", . Xiaoi Robot, Huawei, and... were jointly selected into the "2019 China Artificial Intelligence Enterprise Intellectual Property Competitiveness Top 100 List", and ranked 33rd in the top 100 list."
    The article notes: "7月，在艾瑞咨询发布的《2019年中国人工智能产业研究报告》中，小i机器人成为2019年人工智能产业图谱中最高频亮相的企业之一，是多条赛道上的领先代表；小i机器人研究院团队在由斯坦福大学发起的国际权威机器阅读理解评测SQuAD1.1挑战赛中"
    From Google Translate: "In July, in the "2019 China Artificial Intelligence Industry Research Report" released by iResearch Consulting, Xiaoi Robot became one of the companies that appeared most frequently in the 2019 artificial intelligence industry map, and is a leading representative in multiple tracks; Xiaoi Robot Research Institute team ranked third in the SQuAD1.1 Challenge, an international authoritative machine reading comprehension evaluation initiated by Stanford University"
  2. "索赔100亿小i机器人诉苹果侵权案重启" [Claiming 10 billion yuan, Xiao-i's case against Apple for infringement is reopened]. China Business News [zh] (in Chinese). 2020-08-05.
    The article notes: "小i机器人于2001年在上海成立，是人工智能技术和产业化平台供应商，最初的商业化产品为智能客服机器人（VCA）。 ... 小i机器人对比分析，认为Siri技术方案落入小i机器人完全拥有自主知识产权的ZL200410053749.9号专利（2004年申请、2009年授权）范围。"
    From Google Translate: "Xiao-i was established in Shanghai in 2001. It is a supplier of artificial intelligence technology and industrialization platforms. Its initial commercial product was the intelligent customer service robot (VCA). ... Xiao-i made a comparative analysis and believed that Siri's technical solution fell into the scope of patent No. ZL200410053749.9 (applied in 2004 and authorized in 2009), which Xiao-i completely owns independent intellectual property rights."
  3. Fang, Jia-lang 房家梁 (2020-02-13). "应对返岗潮，小i机器人以AI技术多向支持防疫工作" [In response to the return to work trend, Xiao-i uses AI technology to support pandemic prevention work in multiple ways] (in Chinese). China News Service. Archived from the original on 2024-10-28. Retrieved 2024-10-28.
    The article notes: "针对社区的返工人群，小i机器人按照各地区防疫部署和具体需求，通过向社区提供免费的防疫外呼机器人服务，通过语音识别、语义理解等技术进行语音交互，根据话术模版，对小区居民发起电话外呼，"
    From Google Translate: "In response to the returnees in the community, Xiaoi Robot provides free pandemic prevention outbound robot services to the community in accordance with the epidemic prevention deployment and specific needs of each region. It uses voice recognition, semantic understanding and other technologies for voice interaction, and initiates outbound calls to community residents based on speech templates."
There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Xiao-i (Chinese: 小i机器人) to pass Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)#Primary criteria, which requires "significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject".
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Keep: Broadly, the available coverage sits under four headings: (1) announcement-based coverage of new products/ joint ventures, which falls under WP:CORPTRIV, (2) discussion of the long-running patent case vs. Apple (which may be or become more appropriate as a distinct article about the IP case rather than a party to it), (3) recent items about their NASDAQ listing and a subsequent action which would again fail WP:CORPDEPTH , and (4) articles about the company itself, which what is needed here. It bothers me that the wording of this AfD nomination presents no specific WP:BEFORE rationale in these respects. While I would prefer to find more discussion of the firm in its own right, I feel that the 2018 Digital Finance article already referenced in the article, plus some of the items quoted by Cunard above are sufficient for WP:NCORP. AllyD (talk) 10:16, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Implant bars

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No refs on the page for many years. Not clear whether this is a notable sub from dentures and not much found in independent third party sources outwith of commercial marketing JMWt (talk) 09:41, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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KeepI think there are some notable sourcing that suggests it could be expanded as an article.

I think its a type of overdenture, so could be convinced of merging into Dentures#Types

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Good find, I'm not sure why I missed those. JMWt (talk) 06:17, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Freenet (Central Asia)

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No refs on the page, little independent third party sources found to show notability per WP:GNG. There seems to be more about the Internet Access and Training Program but that's unreferenced too and I'm not sure it could be shown to be notable either. This topic in particular appears to be a short lived programme of the US government with unknown ongoing importance. JMWt (talk) 09:26, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - If there is a possibility of a meaningful article then I think before that, one must write a section at Internet in Kazakhstan. Ratnahastin (talk) 08:51, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge/Redirect into/to Internet Access and Training Program (IATP); and some content (if secondary sources are found) to specific sections such as an early history section of Internet in Kazakhstan, as Ratnahastin suggested, because Internet history as a whole is an encyclopedic topic, even if "the Central Asian Freenets" does not appear to be well-defined as a separate topic. While the IATP article itself needs proper sources, these clearly exist; academic sources for IATP are easy to find, e.g. Uni of Washington 2008 ; Advances in Library Administration and Organization 2009 ; conf proceedings 2003 ; conf proceedings 2003 . The IATP's specific use of the "Freenet" name is quite likely notable within that context. I merged the Armenia info into Telecommunications in Armenia#Dial-up. The USAID role (its own POV on its role) in early 2000s internet development in these countries is only one side of the story, but there's no point in omitting it from this encyclopedia. Boud (talk) 00:07, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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KidzSearch

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Fails WP:INHERENTWEB. Almost all references are the website being described. No reliable secondary sources that are independent of the topic and provide significant coverage. The website hasn't attracted notice. It has received very little attention from independent sources. Mlody1312 (talk) 08:01, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect. Agreed this subject has had little or no lasting impact. Searching for references to it via Google, there are few results and mostly just a paragraph in articles listing kid-safe search engines. Rather than delete outright, maybe redirect to Internet filter. I think there could be scope for a generic article on safe search, distinct from SafeSearch which is about the feature built into Google Search. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 09:49, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: This somewhat malformed-named nomination is ostensibly a redundant nomination to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/KidzSearch, but it's this one that is linked from the article and has attracted a legitimate comment. This may require administrative help to fix; any NAC would now split the discussion. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 10:55, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I apologize for that. However, when I added a notice box at the top of the article, the phrase "the deletion discussion" was lighted in red, which meant that the notice box was not linked to the deletion discussion. So how should they be linked? Mlody1312 (talk) 11:35, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'd be happy to copy and paste my comment to the correct location. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 11:49, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Zakir Ali Zaidi

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This bio clearly fails GNG, but instead of taking it to AFD, I draftified it to give the creator a chance to get it approved through AFC review. However, they reverted my draftification, leaving me no choice but to take it to AFD. Those arguing to keep it based on WP:ANYBIO #1 should also understand that meeting one or more does not guarantee that a subject should be included. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 11:42, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Fails WP:GNG. It lacks direct and in-depth coverage in secondary sources. Cited sources quote text like "His Namaze Janaza will be offered today (Wednesday) at 14:30 hrs at Imambargah Jamia Sadiq at G-9/2 (Near Karachi Company) Islamabad. He will be buried in Karachi," which suggests that this is a paid obituary. WP:SOLDIER has been deprecated, and the awards he received are military-specific and are awarded based on the person's rank rather than their accomplishments. Only civilian awards are prestigious, so this bio fails WP:ANYBIO as well. President is different from vice chancellor so fails WP:NACADEMIC as well. 202.59.12.208 (talk) 13:44, 31 October 2024 (UTC) — 202.59.12.208 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

Better to login to your account (not a new user who immediately finds AfD)/ no contributions outside this AfD) than presenting your biased opinions. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 16:04, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

TheBirdsShedTears, While I personally don’t appreciate votes by IPs in AFDs, even when they share the same opinion as mine, but this vote do raise valid concerns that you need to counter if you want to keep this BLP. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 18:09, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Saqib: BLP? TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 18:30, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment The IP is referring to President (corporate title) which is completely different from Chancellor (education) – President (education). The subject in question served as the chancellor i.e President (education). If you don't know the differences, please don't waste time of other AfD participants. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 16:23, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kennett Bros

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No SIGCOV. Does not appear to be a noteworthy bussiness on WP. Alexeyevitch^(talk) 11:01, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep I accept that sourcing in the article is deficient. It’s not something that I can do much about as I know Simon and Jonathan well. There would not be a serious mountain biker in New Zealand who would not know of them as they are legends. As such, this article isn’t just about the company, but the three brothers themselves. Given that they have been inducted into the MTB Hall of Fame, that in itself is a strong indicator of notability.Simon would probably meet GNG due to his international racing career, but that was prior to the internet age. As a company, they manage to reprint their MTB guide once every three years and I have read an article that no other NZ publisher apart from Edmonds manages to keep a book in circulation over many years. I’d be happy to go hunting for sources if someone else is prepared to put that into the article. Schwede 66 18:05, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I see there's nothing on the Tour Aotearoa Brevet, Kopiko Brevet or Sounds to Sounds Brevet - our more recent focus. I'm happy to help but can't really get hands on! Paul Kennett (talk) 23:22, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Paul, please post on the article's talk page with your suggestions and references. Schwede 66 00:25, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Grooving to the Moscow Beat

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I removed a notability tag because there is a rating from Allmusic. Another editor reverted that because it isn't a review in their view. So, lets settle this. Is this album notable or not? Tag has been on the article since 2012. DonaldD23 talk to me 10:34, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - after a search for the required "multiple, non-trivial, published works", I could find only one borderline source in the LA Weekly, which I added to the article. Everything else I could find were either blog posts or other user-generated content, which also applies to Allmusic. While the band is notable, this particular album is not unless at least one more source can be provided and some sourced detail about reviewer reception can be added to the article. Certainly an Allmusic rating, which is user-generated, is not sufficient to establish notability and shouldn't have been used as an excuse to remove a valid maintenance template. Skyerise (talk) 13:00, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The blue star "AllMusic Rating" is official from the site's editors and is not user-generated. The red star "User Rating" is the user-generated one. However, there is consensus thar an AllMusic page with an official rating but no official review does not convey notability. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 16:03, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the clarification. That makes perfect sense. Skyerise (talk) 16:35, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Simon Hulme

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Does not appear to meet WP:NPROF or WP:GNG. Hitro talk 10:24, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Not seeing much here towards WP:PROF; the single book has two coauthors and not much citation activity visible on GS. Espresso Addict (talk) 11:14, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Same as above - no evidence for meeting WP:NPROF or WP:NAUTHOR. Created by an SPA, there is also no presence of the subject on Scopus, and the citations in the article are largely primary. Possibly draftify could be an option for the incubation of the article, just in case there may be the sources out there. ResonantDis_tortion 11:45, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Ratnahastin (talk) 14:36, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Aanchal Kumar

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The subject of this page does not meet notability standards WP:NBIO and WP:GNG or WP:SNG. In addition to that, the citations given are insufficient and do not possess the required quality and reliability. Although she may have won a beauty pageant, it is not a major national fashion or beauty event. Contrasting WP:INHERENT. Also, being married to a businessman who has a wikipedia page of his own does not automatically establish notability by association WP:INHERITED. The notability of her husband's page is also open to debate, but let's not get into that.

This nomination is part of my training and assessment activities at NPP School. Charlie (talk) 09:53, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: meets WP:ANYBIO with a significant award; if other users disagree, a redirect to Gladrags_Manhunt_and_Megamodel_Contest#Winners (where she is listed) should have been considered anyway. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 10:57, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep meets WP:ANYBIO with a significant award Gladrags Manhunt and Megamodel Contest and represented India in Miss Intercontinental (The winner of Gladrags Mega model represented India at Miss Intercontinental from 1997 to 2003) and ended up as a semi-finalist. She was also a contestant in Bigg Boss and got evicted after 6 weeks. You will get to see a lot of news about her. Added some old references.

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Veitikka

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No refs on the page for many years. It reads like WP:OR and/or an essay, can't find sources which would meet the notability criteria. But then I don't speak Finnish, it is possible there is extensive coverage in that or other laguages. JMWt (talk) 09:39, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Review by Maailman Kuvalehti: [31], Biography by Panu Rajala [fi] has several pages on Veitikka: [32], Monograph by Tero Liukkonen [fi], Veikko Huovinen : kertoja, veitikka, toisinajattelija (1997), the chapter on Veitikka is readable online: [33]. --Mika1h (talk) 10:34, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Coverage above is sufficient for WP:NBOOK. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 19:58, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2016 Khamgaon municipal council election

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Unable to find any sources to show that this election happened, let alone enough sources to meet WP:GNG. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 09:06, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy delete‎ as G5, more at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Dny123. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 20:26, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Manoranjan Saha Memorial B.ed College

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This college does not meet WP:NSCHOOL guidelines, as it falls short in several key areas. The institution lacks sufficient coverage from independent, reliable sources, which are essential for establishing notability. Without substantial recognition or documentation in widely accepted publications i.e., WP:RSP, the college does not achieve the visibility or impact needed to fulfill notability standards.

This nomination is part of my training and assessment activities at NPP School. Charlie (talk) 09:03, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Baba Saheb Ambedkar Education University: As it fails to meet notability guidelines such as WP:GNG and WP:NSCHOOL, redirecting it would be a good option per WP:ATD. GrabUp - Talk 09:06, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete — fails WP:NSCHOOL. Ratnahastin (talk) 14:40, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Pokhara Avengers

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Repeatedly recreated over the redirect, but as per the last AFD, this team isn't notable enough for a separate article, even though the page has been updated some more. I propose restore the redirect and WP:SALT it. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:29, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete and salt. Not sure a redirect is needed. AA (talk) 10:49, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

KidzSearch

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Fails WP:INHERENTWEB. Almost all references are the website being described. No reliable secondary sources that are independent of the topic and provide significant coverage. The website hasn't attracted notice. It has received very little attention from independent sources. Mlody1312 (talk) 08:01, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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List of programs broadcast by MeTV Toons

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Channel with 99% reruns of older series, their programming lacks notability. Fram (talk) 07:56, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep or delete other articles First, note on the reason this article was created. The material in this article was transferred from MeTV Toons, which made the article as noted "too long to comfortably read the main article". This article/list is not any different from others on Wikipedia. It contains references provided by other editors for verification. This article is directly the same as others under the category: Lists_of_television_series_by_network. Please visit this category to confirm. If we limit articles/lists to original programming and not list rerun programs, we will need to delete a lot of articles/lists such as ION or Antenna TV for example. Thus, what do we consider as "notable"?. This is not the only channel that is currently listed on Wikipedia as per quote "Channel with 99% reruns of older series, their programming lacks notability." Msw1002 (talk) 19:08, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: standard list of programmes by network,: can be trimmed, but at least please see Category:MeTV_original_programming. WP:NLIST says: "Lists that fulfill recognized informational, navigation, or development purposes often are kept regardless of any demonstrated notability." -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 11:29, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: previous recent AfDs for similar lists have resulted in deletion or redirection: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of programmes broadcast by Zee Bangla, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of programmes broadcast by HTV (2nd nomination), Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of programmes broadcast by QTV (Indonesia), Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of programmes broadcast by Pogo (2nd nomination), Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of programmes broadcast by Colors Kannada, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of programmes broadcast by Green Entertainment Fram (talk) 12:24, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. I participated in at least one of the ones you linked (and a relist would not have hurt in that particular case) and I would obviously have !voted Keep at the other ones if I had been aware of the discussions.

But those 6 AfDs -FXIW: One was in 2009- do not invalidate the arguments above and 1) the tremendous majority of similar no-consensus/kept/unchallenged pages is a hint that 2) should anyone take further actions to delete similar pages a more general discussion would perhaps be useful. At the very very very least Redirects would indeed seem to be an obvious ATD in each and every case except when he network has no page. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 12:53, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
My apologies, didn't mean to include that 2009 one, wanted to list to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of television programmes broadcast by Vinh Long TV (THVL). I'll leave it in the list, but it of course is no evidence of any recent AfD trend on the matter. But on the other hand I see no evidence for "the tremendous majority of similar no-consensus/kept" articles (unchallenged ones are just that, nothing more or less). For channels with little or no original programming (something like the above AfDs or Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of programmes broadcast by Pop (UK & Ireland)), the result is nearly always delete / redirect. The keeps are usually for major channels with lots of original programming, e.g. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of television programmes broadcast by ITV, and I wouldn't argue for deletion of such ones. Fram (talk) 13:12, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete. Largely acquired programming with next to no original content. Also inadequately sourced. Ajf773 (talk) 18:55, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I might be missing something here, but where does it say originals has notability, but reruns don't? The owner of this channel Weigel Broadcasting has better viewership than Hallmark, A&E networks or AMC that do have original programming. https://www.nielsen.com/data-center/the-gauge/#viewing-by-distributor

One thing I do say about this list article, it does need some cleanup. However, deletion doesn't sound correct. Rivertown (talk) 00:53, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Every television channel that exist doesn't get to list every single program they show. These are shows someone else created for different channels. Only one original program, so no need for a list for just that. Dream Focus 15:30, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment As someone mentioned above, where does it say a list qualifies as notable when it only lists original programs specifically? I can see the concern over a list, especially not referenced. I did not create this list, just moved it out of the main article, which was becoming too long with this list included. The lists such as List of programs broadcast by Antenna TV and others have been on Wikipedia for over a decade with no issues at this point. Just mentioning....
Msw1002 (talk) 00:52, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep This channel has already proven to be very popular for its iconic selection of toons. I think it totally deserves to have an extension with a list of programs page. Voicebox64 (talk) 22:11, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I agree. Viewers should know what airs on the channel. 12.28.52.122 (talk) 19:01, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete The channel's programming is better summarized in a paragraph in the main article about programming than yet another adverty WP:NOTTVGUIDE violation. Nate • (chatter) 22:29, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Hopefully, you will start or support a deletion of List of programs broadcast by Antenna TV as well. This is the same type of list with this kind of violation. :)
Msw1002 (talk) 01:39, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete unreliable sources and no reason why it should be a separate article. Stanley Joseph Wilkins (talk) 00:59, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nada Zeidan

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Fails WP:BIO, reads like promotional material, most sources are either broken or unreliable 'socialite' content. MSportWiki (talk) 07:23, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Jai Hanuman (film)

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The current sourcing is just about first look, and no SIGCOV sources were found. The article fails to meet WP:GNG. Also, the shooting of the film has not started, as this is a sequel to Hanu-Man. I will request a redirect to that article until it passes GNG or NFILM. GrabUp - Talk 07:50, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Draft lack of proper citation as its too early. UzbukUdash (talk) 04:45, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Since only the poster (as a First Look) was released a day ago, there may not be enough verified information or notable media coverage to establish this upcoming film's significance at this time. WP:TOOSOON.This vote is part of my training and assessment activities at NPP School. Charlie (talk) 09:07, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: as a very anticipated film, as existing coverage shows; or redirect to Hanu-Man#Future until consensus is to revert and expand, if other users think it's better. Absolutely opposed to deletion. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 10:44, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@GrabUp, can I ask why you didn't discuss Redirect on the article TP or with the main contributor if this is the outcome you suggest? -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 10:52, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Mushy Yank: It’s my opinion, and I’m uncertain whether it should be redirected or deleted. I didn’t want to do the redirect myself due to this uncertainty, so I took it to AfD. There’s no way this article can be kept now, and I thought a bold redirect could be challenged, which Charlie proved. I can see that they think this article should be deleted. GrabUp - Talk 10:59, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for clarifying! -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 11:03, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yup, There’s no better place than AfD to determine its notability. A talk page discussion would likely have fewer editors involved, possibly just me and the author. GrabUp - Talk 11:03, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. But, precisely, if the creator agrees on a Redirect, it's an easily-reached consensus. But never mind, that's not a problem and you did well to nominate it if you think it's fairer. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 11:10, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2024 Haiti boat fire

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Fails WP:NEVENT, no continued coverage, all coverage dates to the week (mostly just the day, it fell off incredibly fast) this happened, fails WP:LASTING extremely and the coverage is not analytical or in depth enough to compensate. A lot of tragic things happen in Haiti. Most do not get continued coverage. Death toll is not notability. PARAKANYAA (talk) 07:22, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom; fails the WP:LASTING and WP:PERSISTENCE clauses of WP:NEVENT. Left guide (talk) 08:01, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
~~Keep~~ This will be picked up in academic publications. WP:NTEMP WP:NOTTEMPORARY don't require articles to be taken down while one waits for the expected to happen - that this features in peer-reviewed publications - and the article clearly meets GNG in all categories, except WP:LASTING, where it is disputed. "Death toll is not notability" -- well, absolutely massive coverage is notability, which is what this event received.

Thudinspecies (talk) 09:51, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How do you know that it will? I edit in this field constantly, you tend to get a feel for what will and won't, and in some countries they just never do. I really doubt this will sustain lasting coverage, considering how quickly it dropped off the news. There are too many incredibly high death toll tragedies in Haiti. Much less an academic publication. I have read about terrorist attacks that killed 100 people that did not sustain lasting coverage (for clarity, not in Haiti, but in another country that has constant high death toll incidents)

It received an incredibly short burst of coverage, with no continuing impact, not "absolutely massive" by any means. That is not notability. This doesn't meet the GNG because all sources are WP:PRIMARYNEWS, so none actually count for notability when it comes to the GNG. A sign to wait would be if any of this coverage was analytical at all, but it isn't, it's just "thing happened" and then everyone moved on the next day because Haiti has massacres and tragedies with a regularity none of its neighbors do.

The article does not pass the GNG, as the GNG requires secondary sources, and every source here is primary. It also does not pass any bit of WP:NEVENT. PARAKANYAA (talk) 10:38, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I defer to you. Thudinspecies (talk) 11:09, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to List_of_shipwrecks_in_2024#July as an WP:ATD-R. मल्ल (talk) 20:20, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
For the purposes of consensus building, this is fine to me. PARAKANYAA (talk) 20:28, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nitish Nirmal (actor)

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Recreation of salted title: Nitish Nirmal, which was salted back in August. No immediate evidence of notability that I could find. CycloneYoris ^talk! 07:01, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: and Salt: The subject does not meet any notability criteria, the current sourcing is unreliable, no significant coverage sources were found during the search, and no significant roles in notable films, it fails to meet WP:GNG and WP:NACTOR. GrabUp - Talk 07:34, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ario Nahavandi

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I'm not seeing third party SIGCOV, probably not enough here for WP:NBIO. KH-1 (talk) 05:59, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello, I hope you are well, I have added more references such as (Magazine, News and more refs) to make sure each statements are supported by mentioned references. Could you please let me know if this could help to not be nominated for deletion? any feadbacks or help in case if there are still some issue with this article would be appreciated, many thanks xx Lanak20 (talk) 20:53, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Can you provide links to three sources that discuss him in detail? -KH-1 (talk) 00:13, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes here are the some sources that dicuss him in the details:

1 ) https://www.nationaldiversityawards.co.uk/awards-2024/nominations/ario-nahavandi/

2) https://www.magcloud.com/browse/issue/1933514 ( Moscow tonight / Party issue/ February vol2/ page 34,35,36,37 )

3) https://www.bbc.com/persian/articles/cm5er1zggp0o

some extra just in case:

4) https://www.mashreghnews.ir/news/1652987/%D8%AA%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AE%D8%B1-%D8%AF%D9%88%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%86-%D9%85%D9%88%D8%B4%DA%A9-%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%86-%D8%AF%D8%B1-%D8%AD%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AA-%D8%A2%D9%85%D8%A7%D8%AF%D9%87-%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%B4-%D8%AC%D9%86%DA%AF%DB%8C-%D9%BE%D8%AE%D8%AA-%D9%88-%D9%BE%D8%B2-%D8%B4%D9%88%D8%AE%DB%8C-%D9%87%D8%A7%DB%8C

5)

https://roozaneh.net/art-culture/biography/%D8%B2%D9%86%D8%AF%DA%AF%DB%8C%D9%86%D8%A7%D9%85%D9%87-%D8%B3%DB%8C%D8%B1%D9%88%D8%A7%D9%86-%D8%AE%D8%B3%D8%B1%D9%88%DB%8C/

Lanak20 (talk) 12:23, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Promotional profile, probably user submitted.
Can't access the full publication, unclear what coverage it provides of the subject
About a protest song, doesn't specifically mention the subject as far as I can tell English
What appears to be a film review, doesn't mention the subject as far as I can tell English
What appears to be a promotional bio of a different individual - English

Still not seeing anything that would demonstrate SIGCOV.-KH-1 (talk) 05:11, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I appreciate your feadback however:

It is not a promotional website, there is not a part of website stating user can create a profile or bio. the National Diversity Awards website is not a promotional platform where individuals can create their own profiles. It is a curated, third-party site that publishes detailed nomination profiles for individuals recognized for their achievements. Wikipedia's notability guidelines for biographies of living persons, such as WP (General Notability Guideline), accept third-party recognition and profiles published on award platforms as potential sources. This source provides coverage that is independent and detailed enough to establish some notability.
The February issue of Moscow Tonight, available on MagCloud, includes four dedicated pages about the subject. This source should meet WP guidelines, as it provides detailed coverage on the individual. The fact that the magazine is behind a paywall does not negate its validity as a source, especially since Wikipedia encourages the use of reliable sources regardless of paywalls (WP). To address your concern about access, I am happy to provide additional details if needed."
I understand there may have been a translation challenge here, as the article on BBC 'Persian' references the individual within the broader context of cultural movements. The piece mentions notable figures, including the subject, associated with influential trends in this movement. BBC Persian is a reputable source, and while the English translation may lack some nuance, the article reflects the subject’s role within a culturally significant narrative, which aligns with WP when viewed as part of their broader impact. I’m happy to clarify any specific details from the source in the original Persian to ensure accurate representation. This source, while not comprehensive on its own, does contribute valuable context alongside other supporting sources that I am preparing to further substantiate the article.
Mashregh News Article on a Protest Song (Bella Ciao and artists who sang) : While this article is not just a film review and may not solely focus on the subject, it is worth noting that WP allows for multiple sources that contribute to notability as a collective rather than needing to be individually comprehensive. This piece references the subject within a context that showcases their influence and relevance, particularly within cultural discussions, which contributes to notability even if indirectly.
Roozaneh.net Biography (Appears to Be a Different Individual): I understand the concern here. It seems this website might be confusing in English translation but i have added this as there is a connection to related page as in the article it was mention of music collaboration and some refers. I am willing to remove it from consideration and focus on sources directly pertinent to the subject. My apologies for any confusion here.

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Upper Nile Region from 1898 under Anglo-Egyptians Military Rule with Civil Colonial Natives Administrations

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Blatant essay. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 05:49, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Draftify I think there is a valid topic here - “The administration of the Upper Nile Region under colonial rule” - and there are sources. I don’t think this is an essay. It just, well, a draft. Mccapra (talk) 07:44, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Mccapra and everyone else: For what it's worth, I'm actually okay with outcomes other than deletion. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 15:22, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of Islamophobic incidents

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Since I nominated List of antisemitic incidents in the United States I should nominate this too, since it has the exact same problems.

Extremely, extremely broad and vague scope, with barely any quality control. Making this list anywhere close to comprehensive coverage of its baffling scope would be impossible, and would mostly contain low level news stories (as it does). If this was going to be a selection of notable pages (and changing it to that would require deleting 99% of the list) maybe, but the problem is in the title still: "Incident". Incident is so broad as to be useless, it can be anywhere from a terrorist attack to someone calling someone a mean word on the bus, this is a completely un manageable scope. Anti-Muslim terror acts or hate crimes targeted at mosques would likely meet NLIST, and if there is consensus to rescope to that we can, but that would also require nuking most of the page. Also, weasel words: "could be considered Islamophobic"? What? Also has WP:BLPCRIME concerns in that it accuses people of crimes without convictions. It also has WP:NOTNEWS issues, which is not inherently a problem for a list, but is a problem when it's based on an inherently POV and negative concept and one with a scope as vague and with as many possible entries as "incident" PARAKANYAA (talk) 04:16, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Draftify: The list should be rescoped to only contain notable events with broad coverage. It may also be viable to rename it to something like "List of Islamophobic terror attacks" or "List of Islamophobic hate crimes", depending on the new scope. I don't think outright deleting the page would be productive. Regards, SirBrahms (talk) 07:39, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy keep: I don't know why you are doing this. But this list is super-duper notable. Lots of references are added to the article. Jannatulbaqi (talk) 13:33, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Notability for lists is not predicated off of how many citations are referencing the individual items. If the concept of the list is not manageable or is not notable then it can be deleted. There is no way to have this article in a manner that does not violate WP:What Wikipedia is not PARAKANYAA (talk) 21:29, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or rescope to only focus on notable incidents agree with nom that this is not a managable list in its current form due to the volume of coverage of incidents. Hemiauchenia (talk) 21:30, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Nearly all of these incidents are non-notable. ArvindPalaskar (talk) 15:24, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete/Draftify - WP:SALAT indicates list articles should not be overly broad. This article probably could exist if the subsections were there own articles with relevant and useful selection criteria. Bluethricecreamman (talk) 21:42, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep and rescope for the same reasons that led to the outcome of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of antisemitic incidents in the United States. The list can be sourced and focused on a non-indiscriminate collection, so it's a matter of editing, not deletion. --cyclopia ^speak! 10:39, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What do you propose rescoping it to? PARAKANYAA (talk) 19:27, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. The article has become a collection of largely non-notable incidents. Lorstaking (talk) 17:15, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per Bluethricecreamman/SALAT: too broad, plus the incidents are mostly unnotable. Clarityfiend (talk) 00:36, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Marcel Lichters

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A likely autobiography of a non-notable academic. No evidence of WP:SIGCOV (news searches turn up zero results, for example) to pass WP:GNG. Nor is there evidence of a WP:NACADEMIC pass; his h-index of 9 is quite low for a full professor in business/economics, indicating that he is not particularly influential within his profession and more of a WP:MILL academic. Dclemens1971 (talk) 04:13, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. No evidence of meeting WP:PROF at present, might be too early career, though surprised subject holds a chair. I note there's also an article at de. Espresso Addict (talk) 04:47, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The article on German WP was also created by “MLichters”. Also worth noting that the subject doesn't hold a named chair but rather is a department chair. Dclemens1971 (talk) 11:09, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Johnny Partin

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:POLITICIAN No establishment of notability. Only 1 secondary source, and it's about his election. — BerryForPerpetuity (talk) 04:09, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete doesn't meet WP:NPOL's presumed notability cause he hasn't been elected to state-level office (only local level), which makes it fall back upon WP:GNG and the "Major local political figures who have received WP:SIGCOV" bullet point. And there's no evidence of this either on the article or in my research - only things I could find are WP:PRIMARY bios/profiles on government pages (per WP:BIO primary sources don't establish notability), passing mentions in articles mainly about legislation and [34] which is just about him being a candidate for Mayor and based off an email he sent them. Molecular Pilot 08:46, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have moved this article to my draft space for further additions, we can delete the main article Paytonisboss (talk) 10:56, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You're not allowed to move the article into draft while this discussion is underway. Bearcat (talk) 11:29, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I did not know my bad Paytonisboss (talk) 12:47, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you're truly convinced that it might be salvageable with more work, then we do have the option of moving it to draft (or your user sandbox) as the final conclusion of this discussion. So if you want that, we can certainly do it, but we have to let the process run its course first. Bearcat (talk) 15:12, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

yes i would like to continue my work on this page as a draft and look for nobility but if i cant find any am i able to delete the draft myself? Paytonisboss (talk) 11:54, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Mayors are not "inherently" notable just because they exist, and have to be shown to have a significant volume and depth of WP:GNG-worthy reliable source coverage enabling us to write a substantial article about their political impact. But this is referenced almost entirely to primary sources that aren't support for notability at all, the only GNG-worthy source isn't enough all by itself, and per MolecularPilot there really just isn't much else out there that would count for more. Bearcat (talk) 11:29, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I agree with you guys the nobility is not there, the sources dont have much nobility all by themself and according to primary sources theres no secondary sources to back up the primary sources and the article seems a little opinionated now that i do a 2nd look of it most of the sources are based off the opinion of the person the article is about and theres very little nobility in the guy the article is about therefore i think it needs deleted. I also beleave that the article isnt able to be supported for nobility whatsoever.Paytonisboss (talk) 12:55, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Maltersville, Indiana

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Another case where the cited source argues against notability, for the passage in question reads in full, "This is a little place laid out by Mrs. Anna Barbara Malter, December 17, 1867. It has no postoffice, and is little more than the crossing of two public highways." And indeed there is a cement plant a little ways off in one direction, and a plumbing house's showroom in another, and the latter claims to be in Jasper. THis seems to be a place that just never really amounted to anything. Mangoe (talk) 03:54, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete as WP:NPLACE states "Populated, legally recognized places are typically presumed to be notable" but per WP:NPLACE and WP:GNIS the GNIS reference doesn't count as legal recognition and as it's unincorporated I don't think there's any other recognition (open to being corrected here by someone more familiar with the US). Thus it falls back onto WP:GNG and I can't find anything to meet that - the book in reflist only has a passing reference of it, being more about Jasper and other places + can't find anything else. Molecular Pilot 08:52, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Clearly nonexistent place, and GNIS counts for neither notability nor legal recognition. It thus fails the incredibly low bar of WP:GEOLAND. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 21:20, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

JoonYong Park

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Subject seems to fail WP:GNG. Very little coverage in reliable, independent, secondary sources. Mostly primary sources... press releases, a few interviews which per WP:INTERVIEWS would be primary sources, and the one small independent secondary source (the AdAge piece, ref #1 and #7) is the same piece just republished. WP:BEFORE search just shows more primary sources, social media, LinkedIn posts, etc. RachelTensions (talk) 03:06, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: as per nom. 𝙹𝚒𝚢𝚊𝚗 忌炎 (𝚃𝚊𝚕𝚔) 12:45, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Michael Carroll (lottery winner)

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Lack of any real notability, apart from having won the lottery and being a moron. Lack of citations makes this even worse, as there's hardly anything to say about this guy. Revirvlkodlaku (talk) 02:42, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: This is a bit tricky because it does seem like there's a lot of "lasting" coverage, but most of it is just rehashing the same tabloid article going back many years and isn't quality. It seems like the only coverage in reliable sources is very clustered around his troubles with the law - I'd argue that if it's this, rather than the act of winning the lottery, that makes him notable, he fails WP:PERP. ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him)^{Talk to Me!} 02:56, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Only because it is shot thru with deprecatory bits... all true, all ref'd, but in the spirit of WP:BLP we don't want to do this, and you kind of can't delete all of it or you don't have an accurate article. If it wasn't for that, I'd probably say keep it. Herostratus (talk) 02:58, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete Subject lacks significant coverage to meet WP:Notability (People). Even the lottery wins is uncited Tesleemah (talk) 13:21, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Being a spectacular idiot satisfies WP:GNG. Clarityfiend (talk) 23:32, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Addendum. Once notable, always notable. Clarityfiend (talk) 12:45, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Keep This article is very important, or to phrase it another way, no less important than many many others. Who are we to culturally filter what is kept? The number of actors/writers articles I pass by here who clearly curate their own pages, running them as C.Vs, and they all stay because they find some NYT books section reference to stave off deletion. This guy? He gets binned? Michael, his response to wealth, and the infamy it generated at the time in newspapers, is significant in U.K. early 2000s culture. It remaining is important in evidencing the wider implications for how money, culture, and class influence society. Wikipedia is damaged by loss of articles like these, and all the more so because people with poor socio-economic positions are simply pushed out of existence (literally, here), while those with means remain (and thus dominate). SFC9394 (talk) 11:46, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The New York Times dedicated 1,133 words on Carroll stating he is an object of "national fascination". There's been a documentary about the subject on mainstream UK television that itself has received critical attention from reliable sources. There's quite a lot of further coverage available. I see no reason why the subject fails to meet WP:BASIC. ResonantDis_tortion 15:18, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep There is a lot of tabloidy coverage, but there is also stuff that is not tabloid at all. The fascination with him went beyond the surface level, and he does clearly meet WP:BASIC PARAKANYAA (talk) 21:37, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep, he became one of the most prominent type-specimens of what can go wrong when someone wins the lottery and is unable to derive any lasting benefit from the event (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/may/19/curse-of-the-lottery-what-happened-next-to-four-winners). It wasn't just a brief flash of tabloid scandal, or even just sustained tabloid Schadenfreude; the coverage is across a broad spectrum of press, and connected to the social phenomenon of the lottery and what it does to lives. I appreciate the OP's concern about our reflecting tabloid muck-slinging; nevertheless, I think we need to keep the article, because we can at least summarise the entire coverage in a balanced way, which serves our readers (and Carroll) better than they'll get from a crude Google search. Elemimele (talk) 11:36, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Good Glamm Group

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Fails WP:NCORP, WP:CORPDEPTH. Trivial coverage WP:ORGTRIV, promotional WP:PROMO and WP:ROUTINE. Indian media sources should be viewed carefully, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI. This AfD should be grouped with the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/MyGlamm, as they both have similar promotional content. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 03:06, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I don’t think this article should be deleted Hallowme (talk) 14:54, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

MyGlamm

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Fails WP:NCORP, WP:CORPDEPTH. Trivial coverage WP:ORGTRIV, promotional WP:PROMO and WP:ROUTINE. Indian media sources should be viewed carefully, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 03:03, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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2022 Pittsburgh shooting

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I have been unable to find sustained and persistent coverage of this shooting and I believe that it does not meet the crime notability guideline. The shooting occurred on April 17, 2022, and all but three sources that I have been able to find were published from April 17–19, 2022. First, an academic article published November 11, 2022, has a paragraph about the shooting claiming that it "gained wide public attention, commentary, and condemnation", but it only cites to an April 17, 2022 article in People. Then, on November 17, 2022, WTAE-TV aired a story on a lawsuit that was filed regarding the shooting. Finally, in April 2023, WTAE ran a routine one-year follow-up piece. voorts (talk/contributions) 03:01, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I wouldn't call the follow up piece routine (and I think that word is overused) but it is excessively local and by itself not enough. PARAKANYAA (talk) 03:18, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

this piece from earlier this year, which goes into its impact on airbnb, the law it inspired and the ongoing legal battle. I think this is pretty decent with respect to showing notability.

Less helpful post 2022-sources: [35] [36] [37] [38]

Coverage is, to my taste, excessively local, but Pittsburgh is the second largest city in a large state so... eh. More importantly is that the later coverage is analytical with respect to the shooting's relationship with Airbnb. Not sure if it's enough, so not yet going to vote either way. This did result in a law change (as the first piece shows). Maybe merge somewhere, but can't think of a target. PARAKANYAA (talk) 03:27, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sugar Cosmetics

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Fails WP:NCORP, WP:CORPDEPTH. Trivial coverage WP:ORGTRIV, promotional WP:PROMO and WP:ROUTINE. Indian media sources should be viewed carefully, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 02:59, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Looky (Rainbow Friends)

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Fails GNG. PROD was removed. C F A 💬 02:20, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy Delete This is so obviously not notable, its a waste of time to further humor this user let's just get rid of this garbage. The mini-game in Roblox that these characters are supposedly from doesn't even have it's own article. McMatter ^(talk)/_(contrib) 02:23, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Non-notable character in a non-notable game. LizardJr8 (talk) 02:26, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete: Rainbow Friends itself isn’t notable. 2 WP:PRIMARY and 1 possible RS, on its little paragraph in List of Roblox games. Why would its characters be? ^{(maybe I’m tripping over WP:NOTINHERITED’s common arguments to avoid, but oh well.)} MM (Give me info.) ^(Victories) 09:55, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete There are no sources present that indicate any notability for this character. QuicoleJR (talk) 13:39, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Origin was not even notable in the first place and the fact this article exists is just ridiculous. MimirIsSmart (talk) 13:48, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per above. Little character from a non-notable game. Babysharkboss2!! ^(Hardwired!) 15:38, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete more children's non-notable media items. Stanley Joseph Wilkins (talk) 00:53, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. The article seems rather inspired by https://wikirainbowfriends.fandom.com/wiki/Lookies. I don't see Looky or Lookies mentioned at List of Roblox games#Rainbow Friends where the article might have been redirected to, and with the current sourcing it does not meet WP:NFICT. Sam Sailor 11:40, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Foundation for Education Support

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There is no assertion of notability and while I do not read Russian, Google Translate accesses it with some ease and I'm unable to find N:ORG level coverage. I do not think a redirect to or merge with Gymnazium Union of Russia is viable as I'm not sure that would survive AfD either although the name makes a BEFORE more challenging. Star Mississippi 01:54, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - without seeing significant third party reliable sources that show that the inclusion criteria have been met, I can't see how we can tell how important/significant this is. It has been reported but it seems to be only a small ripple in the media, and I'm not even sure how reliable those sources are. JMWt (talk) 19:15, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Kirk Shaw

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Non notable individual. Article is sourced pretty much entirely to press releases or companies associated with the individual. Also contains an unsourced list of non notable minor festival award. Spanneraol (talk) 00:37, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. None of the sources indicate any sort of notabiliy. --Johannes (Talk) (Contribs) (Articles) 18:20, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Macintyre Art Advisory

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Created by a single edit editor. Last AfD was withdrawn for technical reasons for being nominated by a sock. This fails WP:ORG and GNG and has been marked for notability concerns for 9 years. LibStar (talk) 00:22, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: I don't find coverage of this organization. This is about all I can pull up [39], I don't think that's enough. The one source in the article now isn't enough either. Delete for lack of sourcing. Oaktree b (talk) 01:01, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wajid Ali Syed

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Fails WP:GNG and cannot be considered for WP: CREATIVE for Journalists. It seems all the articles published for the subject were put together as sources on his Wikipedia page. The sources focused on different walks of life rather than the subject. Ibjaja055 (talk) 00:22, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Sources mentioned in the article are not related to the subject of the article. The sources mentioned are mostly the news articles written by the subject himself. These sources do not establish notability. TNM101 (chat) 10:45, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: This BLP is based on self-published sources and clearly fails GNG. Fwiw, the creator Wikiwookie543 (talk · contribs) has created several BLPs that strongly suggest they are engaging in UPE. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 11:01, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per Saqib. Fails WP:GNG. 103.82.120.88 (talk) 14:09, 31 October 2024 (UTC) — 103.82.120.88 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]