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Hi! The shade of blue of the Philippine flag have changed a lot of times and the current correct color is Royal Blue (Cable No. 80173) according to RA 8491. The original color, as specified by Aguinaldo may well have been sky blue, but we should use the currently specified color. --seav 15:06, Oct 9, 2003 (UTC)

I've added the information from the Declaration of Philippine Independent document to the Flag of the Philippines article. I think it would be best to state what the symbolisms mean now and what the symbolisms used to mean before (irregardless of whether one agrees with the "patriotic" changes or not). Also, maybe you have information regarding the many times the shade of blue has been changed. (I really don't think we should use sky blue because that's not what we use now.) --seav 05:11, Oct 10, 2003 (UTC)

Ok, I'll help create the image of what the original flag was supposed to look like. Was the sun similar to the one on the red-flag-with-a-white-sun-with-face? I admit that I'm not a history buff (though I appreciate and occasionally read some of Ambeth Ocampo's articles). It seems that the sun originally had a face and this was correctly depicted in the national anthem video that is sometimes shown before the last full show in movie theaters. Anyway, you can send your drawings to my e-mail at esvillar (at) up (dot) edu (dot) ph.

I also think we'll need a Historical flags of the Philippines article to show the flags used by the Katipunan and the revolutionary government. --seav 12:48, Oct 10, 2003 (UTC)

Ok, I've uploaded a depiction of the original flag. Please look at it and comment on the image's talk page. --seav 01:04, Oct 12, 2003 (UTC)

There's now a Flags of the Philippine Revolution article which contains the flags used by the Katipunan. --seav 09:10, Oct 12, 2003 (UTC)


Hello El Caudillo, welcome to Wikipedia. If you have copyright permission to release text here then you need to say so on the article's talk page so that people know. Otherwise there is no way of telling if you just took it from a website without permission. See Wikipedia:Copyrights and the GFDL for more information.

If you have any questions, see the help pages, add a question to the village pump or ask me on my talk page. I hope you enjoy editing here. Angela 01:58, Oct 15, 2003 (UTC)

Angela is correct. You really needed to put something on the Talk page indicating that you have permission, and that the person who GAVE you permission is aware of what it means to release his/her information to the Wikipedia. You also need to supply some proof that the originator has given you permission. RickK 03:32, 15 Oct 2003 (UTC)

"Pió del Pilar" will be deleted presently. If you post proof that the content was released under the GFDL or public domain, it can be restored. Evil saltine 09:18, 22 Oct 2003 (UTC)

You can provide proof of permission by posting an e-mail or other written medium that contains permission either here or in Talk:Pió del Pilar (I believe it must explicitly specify the right to release under the GFDL or public domain, someone please correct me if I'm wrong). Evil saltine 02:25, 23 Oct 2003 (UTC)

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