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Tunnels

Ok, Alex Covington, you say that many of these tunnels can still be accessed. Where can you gain access to any of them? I also find it questionable why you removed the historical link with factual information about the tunnels and changed the wording to make them sound more shady than they actually were. True, they were used for smuggling in the bootlegging era, but they were indeed originally built for legitimate business as was typical in many cities during that era. You seem to have lots of information about Minot, but you tend to slant the information to fit your own personal views and agendas, which really doesn't seem proper for a Wikipedia article.

Part of it is that Minot is trying to emphasize the shadiness now -- and I find it hard to believe that all the tunnels were once used legitimately. As for the link, I merely moved it to the end of the article where external links belong.

Where can you gain access to them? I have been down in some of them, but the problem is as soon as word gets out about it, someone seals it off for public safety or some such. This is a point that I can't really address, it's for the "Little Chicago" people to address

As for the slant, a lot of the edits were made early on before I had a fuller appreciation of NPOV on Wikipedia. One of my ongoing projects is reviewing the article; recently I revamped the section on pedestrianism.

I also apologize for not responding to this comment in a more timely manner (talk page comments usually posted to the bottom of the page). --AlexWCovington (talk) 08:49, 11 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, sounds good!

People from Minot

I really do not want to make this a point of contention, but it is a fact that the term Minoter is still used in the media, a quick search of the term "Minoter" found several instances where a resident of Minot is referred to as such:

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:_yglSe-oKFQJ:www.kmot.com/sports.asp%3Fcat%3DLocal_Sports%26id%3D3628+Minoter&hl=en&lr=lang_en http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:4Gas9LTh48EJ:www.minotdailynews.com/outdoors/story/1022202004_out22out.asp+Minoter&hl=en&lr=lang_en http://www.racefan.com/Results.asp?TrackID=915&StoryID=42235 http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:wWiuD0J11dUJ:www.kxmc.com/News/local.asp%3FID%3D2927+Minoter&hl=en&lr=lang_en http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:1MBNggUuOeEJ:www.minotlibrary.org/minot_history1920-1940.htm+Minoter&hl=en&lr=lang_en http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:RvofxSgybmUJ:www.ndweb.com/mdnonline/content/0009/0908/8collins.html+Minoter&hl=en&lr=lang_en

Search for the term Minoter in all of these articles and you will see that it is used to refer to a resident of Minot. I left it "Notable Residents of Minot" on the wiki page, but I just wanted to let the people know that Minoter is not a passé term to describe Minot's citizens. However, to say that the term is not currently used in neither the local media nor by local residents is more than a little ignorant and a bit presumptuous as well. I never realized that it would become a point of contention, so I will let it rest as it is, but as a lifelong resident of Minot (not just a current resident), I just felt the need to clarify MY reasoning for changing the heading. --poppyhaitian

I am a current resident of Minot, and since this has become a point of contention, I shall expand my reasoning for keeping the section heading "Notable people from Minot."

I have been through old newspapers and have seen "Minoter" in some of the old clippings. Poppyhaitian is not completely incorrect to advocate the term. However, the situation at present is a bit different.

"Minoter" may have been used in the past, but this term is not currently used in the local media or colloquially among citizens. In fact, I've heard "Minotian" out of people's mouths far more than "Minoter." Both terms sound rather odd to any resident.

Watch any news report. When discussing a city council meeting, for example, there is a strong tendency to say "Minot residents came forth to express their concerns..." or "A loose band of Minot citizens came forth to propose..." etc. etc. A noun form is nowhere in sight.

There is no generally accepted term for the people of Minot, and attempting to select one for the purposes of an encyclopedia article is improper. --Alexwcovington (talk) 20:30, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Minoter is generally recognized, used, and will be understood by anyone from the area. That doesn't mean it should be in the article, however. People from Minot works better. Americans have generally gotten away from the notion of having to have a special name for people from somewhere, and to waste a lot of our brain power trying to remember what peculiarities people from a particular area have in this regard; it is mostly an exercise for idle British minds to dream up official names such as Liverpudlians and Glaswegians. Gene Nygaard 21:18, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)

this is stupid

this is so stupid. everyone knows that a person from Minot is called a Minotaur.

What are you talking about? A person from Minot has NEVER been referred to as a Minotaur. You're probably thinking about your old history classes, but not Minot. Gosh! Don't be such a freakin' idiot! --poppyhaitian

Typical Minotaur! Guess poppy got the brains half of the bull. Gene Nygaard 03:23, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I loved seeing this so I made a userbox here. Iam cool 234 19:48, 15 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think you inspired the NAHL team 74.207.137.34 (talk) 03:36, 24 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

New article for Trinity Health

I just made an article for Trinity Health. I encourage someone with better knowledge of the topic to add to the article. Also, it would be nice if we could link to it from somewhere in this article. --MatthewUND July 1, 2005 06:32 (UTC)

Bob McMallin Ph.D., Internet Psychologist

"Bob McMallin Ph.D., Internet Psychologist "

I can find no reference to this individual. Can anyone else? It seems like a very poor inclusion to a section about notable people from Minot. Whoever he is...he isn't notable. --MatthewUND 05:09, August 1, 2005 (UTC)

It's probably nonsense, all I found was a poorly designed website supposedly dated 2004. I'm putting the Bob page up to defend itself. --Alexwcovington (talk) 10:21, 1 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

amazing work!

I know it is. That's why I nominated it to be a good article. Iam cool 234 19:49, 15 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Anhydrous Ammonia Spill

I am surprised that nobody updated this page to include the train derailment and ammonia spill that afflicted the city back in '02. I updated the history and added some links to various press sources that document that incident and the fallout --Opinionhead 05:38, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Connections with Ruthville, Surrey, Burlington(and Des Lacs.)

I live near Minot, and I'd really like to see mentions of the current relationship of Minot to the afforementioned cities and towns, could that posssibly be done?

--r9tgokunks 01:05, 3 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Absolutely. Feel free to edit the article how you like; I'll throw something into the Geography section in the meantime. --AlexWCovington (talk) 07:32, 28 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

While I appreciate your enthusiam, I just don't see why you insist on mentioning Burlington first, and then emphasizing it with italics. This is not to say that Burlington isn't important; aside from the Air Base, it is the largest nearby urbanization, but the way you're writing it breaks up the flow. There needs to be a logical progression in the section. We could do it clockwise from Burlington; West, North, East, Southeast, then South, or we could move back to the North-South-East-West progression.

Another method is to do the treatment radially; ordering roughly by distance from Minot, which seems to be a bit more of your angle; but this opens up to dispute what type of measurement you are doing; is it edge-to-edge? Centre-to-centre? As the bird flies? By road? By rail? It will get confusing and require clarification.

On a different but related topic, I'm going to add a set of important cities in the Minot trading area. --AlexWCovington (talk) 00:39, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have to apologize for not responding to some of the comments, i had forgotten about my request, and about this topic. Most of the info i used was from either [1] or my own measurements in Google Earth, going along Highway 52, and from Center-to-Center(center of towns). I've added some smaller towns to the region section also, and i was going to add South Prairie, but im not certain if its an incorporated town or just a small community. --r9tgokunks 03:19, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My suggestion is not to go overboard in throwing this information in. The point isn't how close the cities are, it's presenting the nearby cities in a manageable way; and the way it stands now, Burlington is overemphasized in the presentation. --AlexWCovington (talk) 06:40, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

External links

The external links sections is way too long. Perhaps some of these could instead be footnotes/citations for applicable sections? --Matth e wUND^(talk) 07:22, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I just cleaned up the list. Many of the links were actually dead so I removed them. The list is much tidier, in my opinion. --Matth e wUND^(talk) 07:46, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Surrouding communities

Where are we coming up with these precise population figures for unincorporated communities near Minot? A ballpark estimate is one thing, but claiming that we know the exact population of unincorporated communities is questionable. At the very least, we need sources for each figure. --MatthewUND^(talk) 01:36, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

no mention of the norsk hostfest???

It is only the largest scandinavian festival in the country. I live in San Diego, CA now and I know people here that travel to Minot every year for the festival. You may want to add something about it. Sorry if I misspelled anything.

Shldnbrry@yahoo.com —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.7.48.208 (talk) 05:21, 27 March 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Mind Rot, equal time???

There is a mention in the introductory paragraph of the city being called the "Magic City". It is also called "Mind Rot" ( http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pageartist.cfm?bandID=439729 )

Should we give both terms equal coverage? I have nothing against Minot. I have intentionally discussed the idea here rather than add it to the article without discussion. Archtrain 16:59, 5 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Weird

It's a bit weird that it's hardly not mentioned that this town is very well known for it's habitats with Norwegian ancestors, and how they make it to be such a big deal to be Norwegian. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.108.238.70 (talk) 17:25, 21 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

AFRICAN AMERICANS

Are there any African Americans in Minot, North Dakota? If so, how many? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.215.126.20 (talk) 19:28, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

2.76% of the population is of african-american origin according to the 2000 US Census. The article already covers this, though does not provide a specific number. Not sure why a specific number is relevant.DCmacnut <> 20:30, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Minot, North Dakota/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 04:15, 16 June 2010 (UTC) After reviewing this article, I notice the following issues:[reply]

The article has very few citations. Ideally at least one cite per paragraph would be needed, so for a city that would be a pretty sizeable amount, certainly more than 10.
Along with the above, the citation needed tag needs to be addressed.
There needs to be better overall structure. Right now there's a lot of one and two sentence paragraphs that needed to be meshed together.
I'm noticing some sentence fragments, i.e. "Minot Vistas of the North Dakota American Legion Baseball League" <-- for that matter, the sports note can just be combined with the recreation section.
"Minot It is almost entirely land; the Souris River, its oxbow lakes, and a few creeks take up just 0.14% of the city's total landmass." Remove the It.

It's a very solid start to the article so far, and I would consider it deserving of B-class, which it's at now. It needs much more work before becoming a GA though, so for now I have to fail it. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 04:15, 16 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I've begun work on most of that. I also have expanded the section with the Minot Vistas fragment Iam cool 234 17:51, 16 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

NAVAL Base

I can't find any reference to a Naval Base in North Dakota. The Navy's official web site note all of the States that have a base. ND isn't one of them.Tpockrandt1 (talk) 00:37, 19 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This might be more useful to bring up on the North Dakota article. Iam cool 234 06:52, 29 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

WSJ resource

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203750404577172912847003358.html Flood Victims Languish in Oil Boomtown] "Shortage of Workers in North Dakota City Stymies Homeowners Trying to Rebuild; a Job for 'Anyone Who Wants to Work" 21.Jan.2012 by Jack Nicas; excerpt ...

Seven months after a flood submerged a third of this thriving city on the edge of the state's Petroleumoil boom, Cindy Garrett is still living in a federally provided trailer on her neighbor's lawn. Her problem: She can't find workers to repair her house. She waited four months for an electrician to rewire her home, and she is still waiting for a plumber to fix her broken pipes. If Minot weren't booming, "we'd already be back in our home," the retired 54-year-old said. Natural disasters slammed cities across the nation's midsection and South last summer, but few have faced ...

99.181.144.253 (talk) 00:51, 22 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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footnote 17 marked not in citation given?

I'm not sure why this source is marked as not in citation given I'm looking in the citation and there is a whole section discussing the height of the river here and it clearly says that the baseline height of the river (when the flooding gauge is at 0) it is at an altitude of 1540 ft. 2601:5CC:4503:CB1C:A9F8:C1DA:7FDA:3655 (talk) 04:05, 7 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]