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Errors in the summary of the featured article

Please do not remove this invisible timestamp. See WT:ERRORS and WP:SUBSCRIBE. - Dank (push to talk) 01:24, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

Errors with "In the news"

Sinwar was not the "acting" leader of Hamas but its actual leader, he was formally appointed as the Chairman of the Hamas Political Bureau since August. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 20:30, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

Nice4What, the bio lead says: who served as the de facto[citation needed] leader of Hamas Could you please sort this out there and once agreement has been reached, please let us know. Schwede66 23:00, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

I removed the unsourced "de facto" claim from the lede. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 23:49, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

 Fixed by removal of the word "acting". Schwede66 02:54, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

Errors in "Did you know ..."

Current DYK

{{subst:dyk admins}} Apologies for the very short notice on this. I just expanded @Jeraxmoira:'s draft of Navin Chawla (judge) and published it. I think "a judge" in "... that a judge is threatening to shut down Wikipedia in India over a defamation lawsuit?" should link to it.--Launchballer 23:49, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

@DYK admins: Fixing ping.--Launchballer 23:51, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

Eh, I don't think the link is necessary; people can get there from the bolded article. On another note, does WP:DYKBLP apply? I suppose it's whether you think shutting down Wikipedia is a negative or positve... ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 23:53, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

• When I remember that even our debates pass the GNG, sometimes I wonder...  — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:00, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

The comments of a judge in an article about a court case are surely covered by "unduly".--Launchballer 00:03, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

Hm...we could change it to 'a court'? Valereee (talk) 09:43, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

I don't think that we need the link. Schwede66 02:55, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

As this is an actively ongoing case in which the judge's position is interactive, it obviously violates WP:DYKHOOK requirement for "a definite fact that is unlikely to change". As the case involves defamation, it obviously violates WP:DYKBLP too. And as Wikipedia is itself a party, coverage of the matter and posting on the main page is not impartial but comes across as canvassing. And the big violation is WP:NOLEGALTHREATS, "Do not post legal threats on Wikipedia." Legal threats are supposed to be referred to the WMF, which is handling the matter. Has WMF's legal team been consulted about this? Andrew🐉(talk) 06:55, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

The first one is solved by changed "is threatening" to "has threatened", if we have to. The second one is incorrect, there are no DYKBLP problems here as ANI is not a person and the judge's action here isn't implicitly negative. The third one is a pretty cut-and-dry use–mention distinction, unless you're arguing that DYK is making legal threats against the WMF somehow. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 07:03, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

FWIW, Wikipedia isn't actually a party. WMF is a party. The court doesn't really understand that, either. Valereee (talk) 09:38, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

Next-but-one DYK

"... that the statue of John Stockton was re-positioned by its sculptor about 20 times by using a wrench to adjust ball-and-socket joints on steel rods?"

The solid bronze statue in the article's infobox does not have ball-and-socket joints, as previously mentioned at Template:Did you know nominations/Statue of John Stockton and Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Statue of John Stockton. What seems like the most likely interpretation of this hook is not accurate, Rjjⁱⁱⁱ (talk) 02:21, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

I have to agree with that concern. Reading the source, it was the clay model or models that had been adjusted. Once it's been cast in bronze, it won't be moving any longer. The hook needs a tweak in my view. Pings to Left guide (nominator), Dr vulpes (reviewer), Rjjiii (who nominated the hook), DimensionalFusion (mover to prep), and Crisco 1492 (mover to queue). Schwede66 03:24, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

The Deseret source and the article prose are pretty clear that these adjustments were made while sculpting in the artist's home basement studio, and that aspect should be made clear in the DYK hook if there's potential ambiguity. Furthermore, the source was published in June 2004 before the statue was ever erected outside the arena in public because it says will eventually stand outside the Delta Center in bronze. Left guide (talk) 03:45, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

Also courtesy ping to @Netherzone: who discussed and worked with me on this article a fair amount, and seems to have some additional specialized expertise about sculptures. Left guide (talk) 05:34, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the ping, but I don't think I nominated anything for this one, just expressed confusion. Also, I agree that the text in the actual article is not confusing (at least to the same degree) because it's placed in a sequence of events. Rjjⁱⁱⁱ (talk) 04:10, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

I had proposed to change it to read that DYK "the sculptor re-positioned a clay statue of John Stockton about 20 times by using a wrench to adjust ball-and-socket joints on steel rods before making the casts for the bronze version?"Dr vulpes (Talk) 04:14, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

Errors in the summary of the featured list

Friday's FL

(October 25)

Monday's FL

(October 21)

Errors in the summary of the featured picture

Notice to administrators: When fixing POTD errors, please update the corresponding regular version (i.e. without "protected" in the page title) in addition to the Main Page version linked below.

Tomorrow's POTD

• house sparrow blurb - at "and is the the most widely" pls remove a "the" JennyOz (talk) 06:25, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

General discussion

Speedy deletion?

A newish editor with no experience with WP:TFA (that I know of) decided to schedule all the November TFAs; see Wikipedia:Today's featured article/November 2024. In the process, they signed another person's name to their own WP:TFAR request, and scheduled some articles that aren't Featured Articles. This is about the time when we usually do the November scheduling, so we need to get this fixed sooner rather than later. I think we've handled the occasional random drive-by scheduling with a speedy deletion per WP:G6 ("housekeeping") in the past. If we don't delete, then some incorrect info is displayed on at least one TFA-related page, and bots may get confused, and sometimes people who keep an eye on the blurbs get confused by the blurb history. But, for all I know, the rules on G6 have tightened up and we can't use G6 for this any more ... opinions would be appreciated. A few days from now, if there haven't been any objections, I'd appreciate it if an admin would delete every page from the November 2 TFA to the end of that month. - Dank (push to talk) 18:20, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

No trouble with using G6 as far as I'm concerned. Schwede66 18:28, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

Yes, Dank, from experience, G6 is regularly used at FAC for malformed or outright 'wrong' nominations (indeed, most other projects, too), so dust down your tool kit and get to it! SerialNumber54129 18:41, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

Sure, I've done it in the past and there were no WP:INVOLVED objections, but I just felt like being careful this time. If no one else does it, I'll do it. - Dank (push to talk) 20:04, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

Cheers Dank, yes I guess better safe than sorry when it's more than just the occasional one. Btw, who was the editor in question? SerialNumber54129 20:09, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

Dunkybrown. - Dank (push to talk) 20:51, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

I'll give it another couple of days (to see if there are objections or questions) before I delete these pages (but someone else may beat me to it). If there's any text that anyone would like to save from these blurbs, go ahead and save the text now somewhere in your own userspace. - Dank (push to talk) 14:04, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

Done. - Dank (push to talk) 14:49, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia languages

The list of Wikipedias in other languages at the bottom of the page is outdated, as the Slovak Wikipedia reached 250k articles in August (source). Could it be updated and moved to the 250k group in the list? Thanks. Matroxko (talk) 11:08, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

The place to discuss changing the language lists is Template talk:Wikipedia languages. Art LaPella (talk) 05:06, 16 October 2024 (UTC)