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Source for Susan Richardson "Eight Is Enough" claim?

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Now, "Eight Is Enough" has been the subject of hoaxes before, including the Might Magazine hoax claiming that an actor had O.D.'d when he was actually alive. With this in mind, along with the bizarre nature of this story, I went looking and couldn't find a single newspaper article about Susan Richardson's alleged kidnapping claim. If it's true, that would be amazing...74.73.74.241 21:23, 17 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Ah, is this about international child custody case? If that is the case, i don't think it is actually "related Controversy". FWBOarticle 12:26, 30 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Firstly, these "abduction" is not strictly illegal. When the custody of kids are granted to different side of parents by different country, then the matter fall into what you call "conflict of law". And Japan hasn't signe Hage Convention which grant the precedent on the court which the kids initially lives before the abduction. To add further, in japan, parent removing children is not legally classified as "kidnapping". Anway, I recommendt to start article on "international custody abduction of chidren" where this issue is rightly belong. FWBOarticle 00:04, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)

I think there are problem with attribution. Albert Fujimori was not abducted to Japan. His problem is extradition. Secondly, equating parent stealing children with North Korean Abuduction is problematic and bit tasteless to say the least. For the North Korean case, all of the abductee were kidnapped against their will while child stealing depends on each individual case. Also at least two abuductee where killed by the regime and several others have died mysteriously of "natural cause". We don't bring up animal right issue in Holocause article even though PETA have said that both are related. I'm not saying you can't present the issue. I'm saying that the issue of child stealing belong to somewhere else. FWBOarticle 10:52, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Have the Japanese died any earlier than the average North Korean population? I don't know if North Korea was able to feed its population, including the Japanese abductees, during the time period.

university professor nearly kidnapped in Denmark?

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It state in the articel that In June 1980, a Korean university professor was also nearly kidnapped in Denmark. Where is the references on that? I have googled and searched for hours but I have found nothing.

Megumi Yokota's "suicide"...

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The focus on the fact that Pyongyang changed the date seems to be almost implying that they're lying, which would certainly seem to be the case, but this article uses the word "corrected" instead of "changed" in a manner that implies that March '94 is the "actual" date. Should we not correct something here so that the wording is more NPOV? elvenscout742 21:27, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. How about "Allegedly died March 13, 1994 in North Korea [Pyongyang had originally announced the date as 1993]"? Or is there a better way to word this, perhaps? - Tangotango 02:53, 3 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
We also need to get the information straight regarding the DNA tests. They are not mentioned in the intro; then they are later determined as false; then later they are called inconclusive. Can someone with an excellent grasp of the incident please fix this? Nach0king 16:47, 12 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Shiokaze: possible inclusion?

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According to the 2007 edition of Passport to World Band Radio (and is confirmed in the 2007 edition of WRTH) the Japanese government operates a radio station called "Shiokaze" (Sea Breeze), which is directly related to this. How can this fit?

Neutrality

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I have to say that this article is very neutral and doesn't take evil north koreans to task enough to be honest. The neutrality dispute label on the article needs to be removed and I suspect it was only put there in the first place by North Korean spies to discredit an article that exposes their crimes. If I am wrong about that, please someone, show me where the article could possible not be neutral. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.127.251.137 (talk) 01:20, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Have to agree witht he content of the above comment, if not with the emotion. The articel is very neutral - it gives both sides of the Megumi DNA incident for examle - and I would move that the neutrality dispute label is removed. This is compunded by the fact there is not a discussion on this page re neutrality.

If anyone objects please enter discussion here. Kunchan (talk) 23:50, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Reasoning behind abductions

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Are they being abducted because of their expertise which North Korea needs, or for ransoms? 99.237.42.98 (talk) 08:25, 13 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The reasons are explained clearly in the "Background" section of this article. --DAJF (talk) 13:21, 13 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I added a citation for the clause referring to the motive of identify theft [1]; however "but these abductees are believed to have been killed immediately" still requires sourcing. Shasta9 (talk) 08:36, 15 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/north-koreas-abduction-project

Current situation -

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"On November 2, 2005, the United Kingdom led 45 countries, including the European Union, the United States and Japan, in submitting a proposal condemning North Korea to the United Nations"

Note that the European Union is not a country. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.23.212.216 (talk) 11:55, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

How?

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How do they get the victims out of Japan without anyone noticing? Tad Lincoln (talk) 08:30, 25 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Very good question, and nearly a decade without an answer. AntColony.555 (talk) 09:01, 25 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Huh?

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" On August 29 2013 Un team hearding tesfiesd from families of victims include The Yokotas on press " ...wut? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.253.84.46 (talk) 07:55, 21 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Well, corrected that following the reference given. 130.149.205.108 (talk) 14:28, 19 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Other countries

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I understand NK has kidnapped people from all over the world including Jordon and European countries. Is there a place on Wikipedia that aggregates the NK kidnapping phenomenon begun by Dear Leader from a global perspective? --

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