Talk:Gilbert Elliot-Murray-Kynynmound, 4th Earl of Minto

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English? He was Scottish surely.

Correct Name

Well, there seems to be some disagreement about his name. The DoCB citation gives Gilbert John Murray-Kynynmound Elliot. His surname is clearly Elliot, NOT Elliot-Murray-Kynynmound - The DoCB citation is not incorrect in this regard either as this is supported also by the Governor General of Canada website entry, and numerous other sources. For instance the English National portrait gallery invariably calls him Gilbert Elliot. There are admittedly many references to his name appearing the other way as well - what is going on here, did he change it at some point? Fawcett5 13:00, 10 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The family sometimes shortens the surname to "Elliot", but "Elliot" is definitely the first part, and it's all hyphenated. See the current Earl, for instance. It was changed from Elliot, but by the 1st Earl, not the 4th. Proteus (Talk) 15:03, 10 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The Right Honourable??

Once again, I am wondering if this former Governor General of Canada should not have the title of Right Honourable. He was a member of the British Privy Council.

Right again. :-) Proteus (Talk) 22:22, 15 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

All earls are right honourable. We're not giving any new information by calling him right honourable, are we? john k 22:30, 16 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

"served under Lord Roberts "

"served under Lord Roberts in the second Afghan War." In what capacity?

It seems there is some informaation missing here.

We are told he left the regular army but became a member of a Volunteer corps, then served as a press correspondent before "taking service" with the Turkish Army. If he then served under Lord Roberts in Afghanistan, in what capacity was he serving? Had he somehow rejoined the army? Had he been on leave of absence all the while? Was it in some civilian capacity? He certainly seemed to be in uniform when photographed among Roberts staff circa 1880. The narrative is incomplete. JF42 (talk) JF42 (talk) 19:51, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]