Talk:Infiniti G35

HP figures

They should be 280hp for the auto and 298hp for the manual, whether coupe or sedan. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 218.111.23.184 (talk • contribs) 10:12, 10 February 2005 (UTC).

That's the same change I was trying to make but the page is locked or something? Only the External Links are editable. ~pezzonovante1 02:13, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

Actually I think it depends on the year. In 2003 the 6MT did not have 298 hp. Edrigu 19:19, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Competition

"The TSX competes mainly with lower-end versions of the Audi A4 and BMW 3 Series, as well as the Lexus IS 250 and Volvo S40. While it doesn't really have the prestige of the German cars, the TSX rates highly with us because of its premium interior and very impressive standard features list." -edmunds.com

The TSX is not ment to compete with the G35 which has almost 100hp more compare to the TSX. I am removing the TSX reference again.

- Baboo 00:07, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

And it stays TL, because TL competes with ES (and sometimes the IS)! And for that matter, the EPA lists the G35 as a compact car, but like the Lexus IS, it stays as entry-level luxury car / compact executive car. -- Bull-Doser 02:36, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

It's not which car is a competitor but which car is similar. And since the G35 is RWD and both Acuras are FWD, and there are already three RWD cars on the similar list, it makes the most sense to not have either. IFCAR 12:00, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Name

The all wheel drive version is clearly a small x as I copy and paste from infiniti's website

http://www.infiniti.com/content/0,,action-IPriceOptions_modelId-126939,00.html

G35x —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Baboo (talk • contribs) 19:39, 3 April 2006 (UTC).

Rear active steer

I wasnt logged in but I changed the unclear sentence that said rear active stear was an option on automatics. It sounded as if rear active stear was only available to the one transmission. ciper 20:22, 15 September 2006

Size

Er, why is the g35 listed under compact? Most places list it as a mid-size car, or at least for the current generation. What the G20 a compact? 128.97.149.30 00:47, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Merge

The G37 is its own car. It is a coupe, it has different rims, a different engine, and other important differences. Merging these articles would be an insult to G37 owners (tho i am not 1 myself). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.82.53.186 (talk) 02:48, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

I think that the G37 article should be merged into this page. It doesn't warrant a separate article just because it has a slightly different name. I also think this article should be renamed Infiniti G series or Infiniti G (which is currently a disambiguation page). There could be a note on the top that says something like

This article is about the Nissan Skyline based G Series. For the the previous, Nissan Primera based vehicle see Infiniti G20. ~ Dusk Knight 23:10, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Entry could also resemble the BMW 3 Series entry with separate and more extensive pages linked from a small entry for each G-series generation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sydbot (talk • contribs) 18:27, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

I agree with the merge, but there won't be any need of sub-articles since there isn't so much text to be merged. And the G20 article could me merged with the Primera article or the main Infiniti G article too. -- NaBUru38 (talk) 16:22, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

There will be a G Convertible in Infiniti's USA dealerships by the end of 2008. Later, the G35 Sedan may morph into the G37 Sedan if the manufacturer decides to use the version of the VQ motor now in the G37 (the G Coupe). Future additional versions of the G are likely, including a very-high-performance coupe - taking it's performance cue from the G's cousin, the now-being-released Nissan GT-R.

Looking at the G Series is now like, and will be even more like, looking at the BMW 3 Series, a direct G competitor. I agree with Dusk Knight. Mal Kenney Infiniti of Scottsdale —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.99.218.18 (talk) 22:31, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

OK, the following is a VERY long explanation, but, while it may be slightly over-analytical, it most definitely is not redundant or pointless, it is just a clear and comprehensive explanation for every reason that it is clear that based purely on precedence, not just my own stupid opinion (like, oh it would be easier to understand blah blah—which may be useful to an extent but I feel that precedence is a far stronger argument), there should only be one Infiniti G based article. This merge has to move along so I went all out.

The Infiniti G is analogous to the Mercedes C and the BMW 3 series. One might say that the G sedan is analogous to the C and that the G coupe is analogous to the CL or the CLK, but I think it would be more appropriate to just say that the C class does not include a true 2 door coupe and that the CLK and the CL are merely different classes entirely, but that Infiniti groups them together a bit more like BMW, including the 3 series related coupe directly into the 3 series. One could then just say that the Z4 is analogous to the CLK or the CL as an entirely different model. Mercedes just chooses not to have a C coupe like the analogous BMW and Infiniti models do. Also, the Infiniti G is in direct competition with the 3 series and the C class, not the CL or CLK.

One might also present the argument that BMW and Mercedes have M and AMG versions of cars that are most definitely considered to be 3 series and C class cars. There is an AMG page, and not only an M page but an M3 page. First of all, Infiniti does not have anything analogous to M or AMG, merely a 3.7 rather than a 3.5 liter engine does not classify as an analogue, especially when non AMG and non M Mercedes and BMW vehicles do vary in engine size within each class or series. Even if there were any class related AMG pages, this precedent would still not be applicable in this scenario, as the G37 as compared to the G35 (as well as the coupe compared to the sedan) is only analogous to the variations within the C class and 3 series that do not have their own articles (ie. 328/335 coupe/sedan). Also, the G37S would not classify as analogous to the M3 or the C63 AMG, as it is really only the car with the sport package and only appears to be some sort of different model because of the way Infiniti advertises the different trim levels.

Based on all of this information, it can be safely stated that as far as its BMW and Mercedes competition, the precedent would be to maintain one page for all G models, including G35 coupe and sedan. Based on other precedents set by the way articles for these manufacturers have been treated, the only reason to ever create a new page for Infiniti would be if they created something analogous to M or AMG, which should presumably be something available in all or most of their vehicles (ie. M, FX, EX, etc.). Even if such a thing were to exist, as dictated by the lack of a page for the C AMG but the existence of a page for the M3, it might be necessary to make a page specifically for the G version, but initially it probably wouldn't be.

I have not spent nearly as much time roaming the Lexus articles, but upon quickly viewing the organization, it seems to function the same way as BMW and Mercedes, with individual articles only for each series. Lexus lacks anything analogous to the M or AMG (Likewise there are no such articles), so it would actually probably be a better comparison to Infiniti.

According to the precedents set by Infiniti's and specifically the G series' competitors, it would make the most sense to have only had one article about the Infiniti G. But, as far as organization goes, one can see that it is very clear that unlike BMW or Mercedes, Infiniti tries to keep one engine size for each model, and changes in engine size generally go along with changes in design/generation (2008 is the only year that the G37 coupe will coexist with a G35 sedan, in 2009 it will be the G37 sedan). So, according to this, it would probably be most appropriate to, within the new merged article, designate the G37 as the new generation (for both sedan and coupe, a side note that the sedan made the engine change a year after it made all the other changes, as compared to the coupe that just made every change at once, would be all that is necessary), and give it a new section. This would be contrary to how, say, the 328 or the 335 are grouped together. But, due to the way that Infiniti develops their generations and their choice of engine, it would be most logical to view the new G37 as a new generation of the G, following the G35. This would be analogous to how the 3 series generations E46 and the E90 are separate sections in the article. The fact that the engine sizes are grouped differently within the article is because they are grouped differently in Infiniti’s history, unlike the 328 versus the 335, but similarly to the E46 versus the E90 (different generations of 3 series). Andrew Nutter (talk) 04:41, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

I am in favor of merging; the G37 page can and should be merged with the G35 page. Further, all of the G series articles should be conglomerated to show the progression of the line. A change in motor size and designation (i.e. G20 to G35 to G37) should be shown in a 'G coupe' subsection of the Infiniti G page. This way, there will be no confusion about continuity. The 'G' is a model line from Infinity that has both coupe and sedan form. One page with sub-sections for each should be sufficient. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Technically Brilliant (talk • contribs) 01:27, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

The G37 should be in a page with all G models, in Japan the Nissan Skyline coupe(G37) is a coupe version of the Nissan Skyline sedan(G35). There will also be a G37 sedan soon so it makes sense that the G37 page and G35 page be merged. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.119.85.232 (talk) 00:10, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Photo conflict?

There seems to be a conflict as to whether to use or for the lead image. I don't see a significant difference in quality and either one could serve quite well, so shall we put it to a vote? I vote for Image:07 Infiniti G35.jpg (white V36). I think the nicer weather and setting make it more aesthetically pleasing. Anyway, Image:04-05 Infiniti G35 sedan.jpg (silver V35) would be good to replace one of the V35 pictures since they are both of the coupe and almost the exact same angle.~ Dusk Knight 03:57, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm glad to discuss it. They are pretty similar in terms of quality, however I believe we should have the most recent model at the top of the page otherwise it really is just a matter of opinion as to which generation best illustarates a model. If a good quality photo is available for the most recent generation I see no reason not to have it as the lead image. --Daniel J. Leivick 08:05, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

The two coupes are the same angle because they illustrate pre- and post-facelift body styles, allowing for an easy comparison of the changes. I object to the head image being the 2007 (at least for now) because it means that the 2nd-gen infobox image will have to be worse than all of the images in the current arrangement. There may be no reason not to have the newest model as the head image, but there's also no reason TO have it as the head image. IFCAR 15:38, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Neither photo depicts the Coupe. Both are G35 Sedans. The white is the current body style introduced for the 2007 model year. The silver is the earlier body style which was little changed from 2003 through 2006. The change in '07 was significant, and not a "facelift". There was, in fact, a "facelift" for the 2005 model year. Mal Kenney Infiniti of Scottsdale. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.99.218.18 (talk) 22:19, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Just like every other car article out there, the main picture should be of the most recent model. Why should it be any less simple than that? Andrew Nutter (talk) 05:08, 29 May 2008 (UTC)