Talk:California Über Alles

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well done guys

real encyclopediac article we got here, congrats.

German Anthem

"Deutschland, Deutschland über alles" is not part of the German anthem any more. I Think "Germany" in this context should be replaced by "Nazi-Germany" since the "Deutschland, Deutschland"-Part was removed after the war.

Precisely, "Deutschland, Deutschland" is still German anthem but without the first stanza. Writing that it was "Nazi-German" anthem also woudn't be fully correct becouse it was the XIX century song, sung also before the uniting of Germany in 1871 (with the meaning "One Germany is more important that small German States" and not the nazi-meaning "Germany is better than other Countries"

The song's name is NOT Deutschland,Deutschland it's 'Lied der Deutschen' (Song of the Germans), and the anthem of Germany is the 3rd stanza of 'Lied der Deutschen' —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.164.241.126 (talk) 07:37, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect

Hmm, since the album reads "Über" and not "Uber" (or so i was told when i asked, i don't own a copy myself) in the tracklistings et cetera, shouldn't the page with the latter spelling be the redirect page to the former?

That's been taken care of.--Tirolion 13:59, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Note

note (to self & others): this article needs to be cleaned up a bit for grammar/etc.

Yes, and if I may interject; please, please sign your comments. K? --Tirolion 13:59, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Bigger Problem?

I haven't played the game, but isn't that We've got a Bigger Problem Now in American Wasteland?

No, the original, anti-Brown version is in Wasteland, not the We've Got A Bigger Problem Now anti-Reagan version.

Personnel?

I haven't been able to assess this, but wasn't 6025 still in Dead Kennedy's when this was recorded? I've seen no mention of such, nor does Give Me Convenience or Give Me Death confirm it. However, was he, or wasn't he? IIRC, there aren't even any mentions on the single cover of who plays what. --Tirolion 13:59, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Alternative Tentacles label?

Wasn't the original label for this single "Alternative Tentacles"? Or was there a prior label ?. 209.36.79.10 17:54, 8 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

people on the picture sleeve

The picture sleeve has two circles in the lower right and left corners, with people within the circles. (it's set up like a "pull-out" of people in the crowd).

Does anybody know who those people are (or are supposed to be)? 209.36.79.10 17:59, 8 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Coverversion by T.A.S.S.

German Industrial Rock band T.A.S.S. feature their own version on their album Maniafesto from 1994. 195.46.247.72 (talk) 17:54, 18 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"Kalifornia über Alles" [sic]

Can someone tell me why sic was included in this? In german, that is proper spelling. Removing the [sic] marking. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.17.16.222 (talk) 17:56, 24 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, in proper german, this would be "Kalifornien". I'll restore the [sic] marking. 77.8.212.217 (talk) 11:36, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

i am fairly confident that 6025 plays on this version, because even though he's not credited on give me convenience or give me death, i can distinctly hear a second guitar, and on the "now it is 1984" part (or near enough) he adds one of his trademark dissonant harmonies - i believe it's also heard on the 1978 demos (where he is unmistakably present) and there is a video of the dk's in 1979 with him present where he does it also — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.99.25.217 (talk) 21:32, 4 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

'Serpent's egg' allusion

Regarding the allusion to "the serpent's egg already hatched," the entry attributes it to a Shakespeare play, but does not provide a citation for this. I believe that Jello Biafra has said in an interview that it actually is an allusion to the Ingmar Bergman film "The Serpent's Egg," which is also a Nazi metaphor, set in Germany and involving experimenting on people with gas (linking to the lyrics' prior mention of "organic poison gas"). (The film's title ultimately alludes to the Shakespeare play.) However, I cannot find that interview at the moment. In any case, this entry should not be definitive about the source of the lyric without proper citation, and with at least two possible sources.Jtcarpet (talk) 01:29, 17 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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"Cover versions" subtitle too narrow?

Although it is common to include a "Cover versions" section in song articles, very few of the entries in the Cover versions section are, strictly, covers, because they've rewritten the lyrics. In some contexts, that would make them parodies, but it seems like the lyrics rewrite versions preserve the style of the original, while parody implies a satirical intent.

So what are these songs with new lyrics? Adaptations? Homages? Updates?

I think a replacement title of "Cover versions and adaptations" would describe the section best, but I'm not sure enough about that title to be bold without a little discussion. — Steve98052 (talk) 19:43, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Right now, whatever the section is called it's an indiscriminate list of WP:SONGTRIVIA. Pick a very well known song and imagine what this type of section would look like. Cover versions, adaptations and parodies of the Beatles "Yesterday" would be thousands of entries long. How many bands have played or TV shows and films have used all or part of "The Star Spangled Banner"? Everyone from the Boston Pops Orchestra to Jimmi Hendrix and Roseanne Barr to Metallica would be listed.

If we listed every song that samples or adapts "Funky Drummer", the article would include a list of several thousand songs.

If a band plays or even records a cover of a song, is that performance a significant part of the song's history? Usually not. If it's a significant part of the band's history, include it -- with a cite -- in the band's article. If the band has a notable song that samples, quotes or adapts this song, include it -- with a cite -- in the notable song's article. If another band covers a song and that cover is notable independent of the original, then it makes sense to include it here. - SummerPhD^v2.0 00:45, 15 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]