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The result of the debate was DELETE. Jinian 14:05, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Two-hit wonders in the United States

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I've never heard this term used in the music business. It's unencyclopedic. Keeping this article is like keeping an individual article for every type of -phobia and -philia that can be lexically constructed. Eventually, there will be a List of three hit wonders, List of four hit wonders, List of five hit wonders, etc.. It's better to end this now before it gets out of control. Hct 06:02, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)

  • See also Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Two Hit Wonders. No vote from me. —Korath (Talk) 06:11, Apr 7, 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep. This article documents a vital part of the music industry. In fact, this list is much more important than the list of one-hit wonders because all the artists have had TWO hits. A1 06:29, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep. Just because someone is ignorant about a world changing topic doesn't mean the topic is "unencyclopedic." B2
  • Keep. This is a no-brainer. In fact, I bet my manhood that this will become a future Featured Article. C3 06:33, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep. The nominator is a dingus and this article deserves to be in Wikipedia. E5 06:35, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep. I am so sick of uninformed people trying to delete things they know nothing about. Two hit wonders is a common term. Just ask anyone on the streets, even the homeless know about two hit wonders. F6 06:37, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep. Wikipedia is a place where new and insightful concepts are conveyed to dedicated readers. If you delete every new idea that comes along, then mankind will be forever stuck in a stagnant pool of banality. G7 06:40, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep. Today, my teacher talked about two hit wonders and their impact on important historical events. This article belongs on Wikipedia. H8 06:43, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • I know this will come as a shock but A1, B2, C3, E5, F, G7 and H8 are all one-edit wonders, with this VfD entry being their first edit each. --iMb~Meow 06:56, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete, along with Zero-hit wonder and 1½-hit wonder (mercifully this one was already deleted via VFD) —Wahoofive | Talk 06:49, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep - despite the attack of the sockpuppet wonders, I think two-hit wonders is about as valid a topic as one-hit wonders - in my experience, they tend to be one-hit wonders who are able to parlay the fame of that one hit into... a second hit (which is usually a cover of another band's previous hit). I would stand against three- or more hit wonders, because, well, they're really not wonders. -- 8^D gab 07:21, 2005 Apr 7 (UTC)
  • Keep. Although it pains me to agree with socks, I think a list of 2 hit wonders could be encylcopedic. I've heard the term before. Dave the Red (talk) 07:34, Apr 7, 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep Two hit wonders are twice as notable as one hit wonder's. Klonimus 08:39, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete as arbitrary. One-hit wonders are somewhat special, N-hit wonders for N>1 are not. Radiant_* 08:57, Apr 7, 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. What's next, a three hit wonder. Doesnt the wonder go dull after the 2nd hit? Saopaulo1 09:21, Apr 7, 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. One-hit wonders is acceptable but anything more than that is crufty, trivial and arbitary. Megan1967 09:38, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete as per Radiant, Saopaulo1, and Megan1967. --Angr/comhrá 11:56, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep as per 8^D --Centauri 12:34, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep could be useful. Grue 14:56, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. Non-notable. --Halidecyphon 15:06, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. "Two Hit Wonders" didn't get any "keep" votes, so a US-centric breakout version of the same shouldn't either (and yes, for anyone new, I am a US resident). Niteowlneils 17:50, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep, because I think we need this as well as One-hit wonders in the United States. --KelisFan2K5 19:00, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep, it goes against my religion to agree with sockpuppets, but googling "Two-hit wonders" +music pulls up over 2000 hits. There should be some clairification of what a "Two-hit wonder is" and it should be a more generic page of just "Two-hit Wonders", not "Two-hit wonders of the United States". Having separate sections per country seems reasonable.Gorrister 22:03, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete for reasons given by Saopaulo1. You have to draw the line somewhere. One-Hit Wonders are fine, but the concept of Two-Hit Wonder is simply not notable, IMO. 23skidoo 19:31, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. USA-centric. I agree with the unisigned comment above that it should be a more generic page of just "Two-hit Wonders", not "Two-hit wonders of the United States". P Ingerson 19:52, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep The concept and social impact of a two hit wonder is equal to the theory of relativity. LAHigh 01:57, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep.
  • Keep. I agree with LAHigh. Two hit wonders are NOTABLE. There are VH1 SPECIALS on two hit wonders and I think there was a Tom Hanks MOVIE about two hit wonders. Face it, two hit wonders are NOTABLE. tsk tsk tsk, some deletionists can be very ignorant CALow 05:09, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • CALow is a two-edit wonder at this writing, with both edits to this VfD page. --iMb~Meow 05:15, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep. Earth is composed of 2 opposite hemispheres (as in plus and minus), that would cancel each out if unified as an entity. --iMb~Meow 05:14, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete I just want to know if 1½-hit wonder was deleted or just never took off? MicahMN | Talk 05:27, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment: I think if we need to delete Two-hit wonders in the United States, we should delete One-hit wonders in the United States, One-hit wonders in Canada, One-hit wonders in the UK, etc. --KelisFan2K5 12:05, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Merge and redirect with One-hit wonders. IMHO, the term "one-hit wonder" doesn't strictly apply only to artists who had only one singular hit - it's more of a shorthand for "someone who had a brief burst of popularity but was unable to sustain a notable career." A "one-hit wonder" may have actually had more than one song hit the charts. Merging might help prevent a potential avalanche of 3-hit, 4-hit, etc etc etc. Soundguy99 19:56, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Comment. I voted keep, but have no strong objection to a merge and redirect to a section within one-hit wonder (I'm big on redirecting to sections within articles); nor do I have any objection to having an article for all 2-hit wonders (as opposed to just in the U.S.). -- 8^D gab 03:40, 2005 Apr 12 (UTC)
  • Delete as a useless neologism and block all socks involved here. --InShaneee 03:16, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep. Being a two hit wonder has been notable since the creation of music charts. Mmmbopper 03:29, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Merge with One-hit wonders, concur totally with Soundguy99 in saying that the term "one hit wonder" is synonymous with extremely short lived success followed by relative obscurity. Additionally, the majority of the songs on the list do not even back up their claim of having exactly two songs among the top 40 - most in that list give a rank of ? instead of any useful information. In either case, this seems extremely arbitrary and unencyclopedic, as the term two-hit wonder isn't in common usage, and is probably just an obscure neologism, anyway. Arkyan 05:26, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Eminently sensible argument - I would have no objections to a merge and redirect. -- 8^D gab 14:04, 2005 Apr 9 (UTC)
  • Delete. Everyone knows what a one-hit wonder is... seems like the creator made up terms zero-hit and two-hit... who knows that the 'technical' def. is between X and Y on the charts? Feco 07:17, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep This is a real phenomenon that is sweeping the globe. It belongs in Wikipedia, just like the Indian Ocean earthquake and Martha Stewart. Erect Banana 07:25, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Note: this is only the users second edit, the first was a remova of the VFD tag from the page in question. --Boothy443 | comhrÚ 07:30, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • DELETE per concouring comments for delete listed above. --Boothy443 | comhrÚ 07:30, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. I concur with the delete comments listed above. Never heard of this one! And I hope some admin figures out who created all those one-use accounts just to vandalism this page and pernanetly bans that bozo. --Coolcaesar 07:59, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)


WHY YOU NEED TO VOTE TO KEEP
ATTENTION TWO HIT WONDER FANS AND PROSECUTORS!

I just want to say that Two hit wonders are real!

If you are reading this, you may or may not know that the two hit wonder community's faithful devotion to two hit wonderism is currently under siege from doubters of the two-hit wonder craze. Those of you who frequent the hit wonders section of Wikipedia.com may notice some recent vfds. Click them to see the travesty of Wikipedia. A faithful member of the two hit community by the alias of "KelisFan2K5" has spoken out against prosecutors of the two hit wonder craze.

The problem right now is that there is a group of ignorant two hit wonder opposers who believe that two hit wonderism is "non-sense" and is vandalism and/or a false proclaimation. TWO HIT WONDERS ARE REAL AND IS SWEEPING THE GLOBE. OPEN YOUR EYES.

In order to support all the offended two hit wonder fans out there, and also to back up KelisFan2K5's bold stand, I will lay out my argument in a series of proofs.

Proof #1: It should be quite obvious by now that Two Hit Wonder Forums is a lively and growing fan community. What started out as a simple means of communication between friends of the wonders turned out to be an extensive base and archive of information regarding our mysterious two hitters. Unlike many fan forums, Two Hit Wonder Forums is actually active and is visited/updated almost every day. Also, it should be noted that the rumour mill is still live and kicking despite the paucity in two hit wonderism for a good 9 years or so. Other X-hit wonders that do not have a "mania" named after them do not have fans that generate rumours about the next wonder. Two hit wonders has very faithful fans that generate rumours because they are excited and anxious to see a two hit wonder in their next appearance due to "Two hit wonder fever" (which is a symptom of "Two hit wonder mania"). And plus, isn't the whole point of rumours a sly way for artists to gain popularity and ground before a huge upcoming release of their work? Enough said.

Proof #2: Considering the internet did not become popular until well after the casettes sales ended, it can be concluded that Two hit wonders came into existence after other two hit wonders left the spotlight of the music industry. However, the "VFD" section of the website clearly shows that people still greatly care for two hit wonders even after they left the music spotlight. That is a proof of "Two hit wonder mania" because TWENTY-TWO dedicated fans posted with their deep heartfelt thoughts on two hit wonder's unfortunate ejection from the spotlight. Now, from a worldly perspective, 22 is not a big number at all. But Two Hit Wonder Forums is not a huge and official website and is just a simple and humble fansite dedicated to the topic. Therefore, it would be difficult for it to gain a lot of traffic. However, despite the lack of popularity, TWENTY-TWO people still managed to find that website and post their thoughts (some of which are very touching and serious songs and poems). Now, for those of you who doubt the existence of such a dedicated fanbase, I bid you to consider how you may have seriously offended such devoted people, you sick and inconsiderate "Two hit wonder mania" doubters.

Proof #3: Two hit wonder fansites still exist, despite their disappearance from the mainstream music scene for the clean 9 years. Not to mention that these are not only fansites but there is also a "Page of Worship". "Worship" is normally used to define someone's unconditional praise towards a god-like figure. To simply think that there are fans out there that would out and out worship the "Great Two Hit Wonder" itself, is proof enough that "Two hit wonder mania" is indeed a true phenomenon. I would go as far to say that any "Two hit wonder mania" doubters are intolerant of this religion, belief, and creed. By doubting the exist of "Two hit wonder mania", you also neglect and disacknowledge the existence of a worship medium towards the enigmatic Two Hit Wonder. You know what happens when you become an intolerance extremist? You turn into a nazi. And do you guys want to know what happened to the nazis of Germany? They lost World War II and are regarded as one of the most disrespectful groups in all of history. If you doubt the existence of Two Hit Wonder worshippers, you should very well just say "let's eradicate all visible minorities because they are 'non-sense' and a 'vandalism' to the world".

Proof #4: Dedicated Two Hit Wonder fans have held private Two Hit Wonder statue dedications to commemorate such great and joyous artists. That's right, for the past two years on January 7th, Two Hit Wonder fans have gathered for the annual "Two Hit Wonder Statue Commemoration" to celebrate such an important day in the history of mankind. During these parties, the fans get together and buy a customized statuette that features a two hit wonder's face in order to recognise their greatness.

This easily proves the existence of "Two Hit Wonder mania" because only topics with a "mania" named after them have such dedicated fans that would be obsessed enough to have a statue commemoration for the subject without him/her even knowing. Also, "obsession" is another symptom of "Two Hit wonder mania" and obviously, these fans display that. EB 07:52, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)

  • User's contributions to date consist of vandalizing the subject article and voting here. --iMb~Meow 19:42, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep. Same reasons for my keep vote in Zero-hit wonder. A little crufty, but harmless. ZzZ 08:14, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*Abstain. I've worked with this article, but I'm beginning to have doubts on the usefulness of this information. Anyqueen 08:26, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC) Delete. I've changed my mind. It's better to delete this now than to let it grow into like a billion entries. Also, I miss the alternating gray rows that use to be there. Anyqueen 18:55, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)

  • Delete or merge as per Soundguy99. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 15:20, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Dedlete. The term "Two Hit Wonder" is not widespread, fails the Wikipedia:Google test, and should really just be a footnote in the One-Hit Wonder article if anything. Also, quit it with the socks, it's just lame. --DropDeadGorgias (talk) 00:59, Apr 11, 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete neologism-cruft. Fire Star 04:20, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete, unencyclopedic, pointless list. VladMV ٭ talk 15:14, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete unencyclopedic. This is one of the most impressive showings of annoying sockpuppets I've ever seen on VfD. CDC (talk) 16:02, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. EdwinHJ | Talk 17:21, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. Takes the interesting phenomenon of the One-hit wonder -- the single fluke, the brief moment in the spotlight -- and makes something meaningless instead. --Calton | Talk 00:51, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment. I have heard of the phrase before, but the phrase is not talked about much (except for a late night special on VH1). However, if these sock puppets really want something mentioned, I am sure there is a page of pop music terms somewhere, or at least just a mention somewhere else. Zscout370 01:03, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep; as much as it pains me to agree with a vandal like that, that looks like a useful list. DDerby 01:39, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. Fight pointless list proliferation! -- Dcfleck 12:38, 2005 Apr 12 (UTC)
  • '''''''EXTREME KEEP'''''''''''!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 205.217.105.2 17:03, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • '''''''EXTREME DELETE'''''''''''!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Carolaman
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