Talk:Clan Kennedy
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If anyone has any more information about the kennedy clan, please feel free to add it to the page
Buildings once owned by kennedys or build by them.
[edit]Maybole castle Cassillis castle (now the family home) Dunure castle Blairquahan castle Castle Kennedy Dalquahrran castle Culzean Castle Baltersan Castle Greenan Castle Crossraguel Abbey
There are many more, they ruled the south west of Scotalnd For centuries and they still have known presence in the area ( i live a mile from the Marquis of Aisla) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.145.240.225 (talk) 23:50, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
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Should the Irish Kennedys be called a clan?
[edit]The clan system doesn't exist in Ireland in the same sense as it does in scotland, although the government recognised a Irish clan charity in 1989, it's more of a retrospective idea. I'm removing the word clan in references to the Irish family unless anyone has an objection. Other articles on other common Irish surnames e.g. McCarthy, O Brien don't use the word clan in their articles at all. Everytime (talk) 15:08, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
- I dunno what they should be called - but i think the Irish and Scottish content should be moved to separate pages, atleast. It seems like the article was originally about the Scottish clan, dunno how the Irish stuff crept in.--Celtus (talk) 06:07, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
- Ya its more a scottish page with Irish comments as afterthoughts, i mean an image of a man in a kilt has sweet fa to do with the Irish Kennedys, whom by my reckoning are the more numerous of the Kennedys. Everytime (talk) 13:47, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Regardless of whether the Irish Kennedys are relevent, "Kennedy" is an Irish surname, and "Clan Kennedy" is NOT an Irish surname ... the first sentence of the article is nonsense. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.68.134.1 (talk) 20:58, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
Here's why the Irish Kennedys are relevant: The Kennedys of Ulster are the same clan as the Scottish Clan Kennedy; they are a branch of the Scottish clan that migrated to Ulster from Scotland. Many of the Ulster Kennedys subsequently migrated to Dublin, and mixed with the Kennedy family of Dublin, and there's no longer any practical way to sort who of the Dublin Kennedys are descended from the Scottish clan, and who are not. For these reasons (and other related reasons), the Chief of Clan Kennedy has agreed that all the Irish branches of the Kennedy family, including those in Ulster, Dublin, and Cork, are to be considered part of Clan Kennedy of Scotland. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.68.134.1 (talk) 21:09, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
Folks, clann is just Gaeilge for family. Fergananim (talk) 15:51, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
Walter Kennedy article
[edit]Someone recently copied most of the separate article on poet Walter Kennedy and dumped it under the clan profile - clan chief section. I have removed it. If that person wants to link to the other article fine, please do so. Iain Kennedy (kennedy@one-name.org). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.177.229.140 (talk) 21:37, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
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"Cunedda is rendered as Cinneidgh in the Celtic language" -No!
[edit]No, it most certainly does not! And which Celtic language? There are several. Fergananim (talk) 15:50, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
- The point I was going to make. The article is a bit all over the place. For example, it references Cunedda (aka Cunedda ap Edern). Staying within Wikipedia, the article on Cunedda states the name means "Good Hound/Warrior". I dunno. If the origins of the name are Gaelic, there's probably a relationship between primitive Irish "Cunanetas" or "Champion of Wolves" (see Ogham inscriptions at Waterford; probably a cognate of "cunedda") and Clan Kennedy. What I do know is that cinnéididh or cinnéidigh in Irish has two words that can be read as "helmeted head" (ceann, a head, and éide, armour), not ugly or grim-headed. I raise the points because of the presence of Old Irish in Galloway (the Rhins of Galloway)). Waergenga (talk) 05:11, 12 January 2024 (UTC)