Talk:Carnivore (software)

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Carnivore and Echelon are both highly controvercial issues. Civil Rights groups, government watchdogs, and Free-speech advocates are up in arms. (and in my opinion; rightly so) Hhowever, in the spirit of Wiki Let us try to be as unemotional and factual as possible... --DigitalSorceress

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I agree, but perhaps some more detail could be gone into as to why they are controversial. --user:Daniel C. Boyer

I think Echelon is better on this. --user:Daniel C. Boyer

Lawful Intercept Module

I think the general article neglects to detail the nearly universal use of what is called the Lawful Intercept Module (or something similar) in each and every telecom system installed today around the world. This allows local law enforcement the ability to track and record network traffic, fixed line, and mobile usage by user or by classifications of users sorted by Call Data Record searches. The tracked data is stored as mp3, text, or xml as appropriate, and delivered directly to law enforcement via an encryption protocol. In other words, with remote administration and secure delivery of reports, the telecom employees have no idea what is going on. It doesn't even show up in the system monitoring software. A lot of times, it's left out of the system architecture diagrams.

Again, this is already installed in every system I know of. It's not at all complex technically.

Now apply this to a few places outside the US for a moment. Maxim Mishchenko, the leader of Young Russia, has mentioned "political technologies" used by Ukraine and Georgia to overthrow Kremlin backed regimes. This means, of course, SMS, chat, email, video, and mobiles to quickly organize protests and actions.

The telecom systems in those countries are now provided by a Kremlin controlled company. These "political technologies" will NOT be allowed to challenge the status quo again.

See, the usage has shifted from merely monitoring to outright prohibiting political communications, as in the case of Myanmar. What has happened to the monks, students, and dissidents brave or foolish enough to post video, commentary, or SMS the wrong message? Have they already been rounded up?

I don't know another place to post these observations, perhaps a "political technology" page could be created? TWFred 09:23, 1 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Let's kill this beast.

Here is a possibility to fight Carnivor or DCS-1000, Echelon, or what ever they called this thing. The spyware is reaching your computer on its own frequency, different from dial-up, DSL or cable. It could be filtered out by relatively simple electronic devices, but the Big Brothers do not allow selling these filters, so you have to make them for your self. The simplest one is just a capacitor 0.01-0.03 uF range, like this in RadioShack store: 0.01µF 500V 20% Hi-Q Ceramic Disc Capacitor Pk/2 Model: 272-131 | Catalog #: 272-131.

Connect red and green wires in your phone socket with this capacitor. Your computer also can be reached through the AC power line by one of dear neighbor terminal operators, so protect your power divider. Open its cover and use three of these capacitors to connect plus and minus, minus and ground, plus and ground pairs of wires in the AC divider. Disconnect any radio frequency devices, like Wi-Fi adaptor, Wireless router.

Now the spyware will have a substantial interference in getting you information. Nothing will happen first, but after a while your Internet will going slow, sometimes very slow. This thing is going to use your Internet channel to intercept your activities. And it needs a lot of traffic, much more than the target computer uses for itself.

Verizon on-line traffic analyzer used to show that my ”traffic is used by unknown application.” When I started to ask questions to tech support on slowing my Internet, they simply removed this option from their speed report. They blamed wires, my WLAN card, my software and possible virus infections. They played a fool. I have spent many hours talking to my ISP tech support. But I have saved the speed reports for one year and I can go to the court. They have a right to spy on me, but I am still not obligated to pay for this from my pocket. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Atarget (talk • contribs) 00:52, 24 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Just a note that Carnivore does not use any unknown frequencies to install spyware on your computer. That's just crazy. The article explains it well; it's an application/device that sits on the servers at the ISP. You can filter all of your lines all you want, but the capturing is taking place in the ISP's data center, not in your house. You seem to just have a typical, run of the mill, spyware program installed. Take my words for what it's worth, but reader beware when following someone else's online schematics to wire into your computer's power line. Rurik (talk) 01:35, 24 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

google

or you could mention that google has employed people from this project. and that google is storing cookies on people w ho visit this specific wiki page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.62.69.15 (talk) 14:26, 12 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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